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#201 Shaman

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Posted April 15 2014 - 01:06 PM

UPS Backs Down—Cancels Move to Fire 250 Drivers
@  http://www.triplepun...re-250-drivers/

 

 

“The work stoppage on Feb. 26 was legal and permitted under the union contract with UPS,” a Teamsters Local 804 spokesman said. “Under the agreement reached with UPS, Local 804 acknowledges that the union’s internal procedures for authorizing a strike were not properly followed on Feb. 26 and we have agreed to communicate the proper procedure to all union members.”

 

Whether the walkout was technically legal or not, UPS’ reaction led New York City politicians to threaten to cancel city contracts that give UPS millions of dollars in breaks on parking fines. The showdown escalated when Public Advocate Letitia James, City Comptroller Scott Stringer and several city and state legislators gathered beside Local 804 at City Hall early this month and called for government agencies to review the city and state’s business with UPS. James said the company had a $2 million contract with the city, which stems from a larger $43.2 million agreement with the state.

 

Apparently UPS does not have the power to fire city officials, so that pressure—and the public outcry–that resulted from the firings led UPS to reverse course.


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Posted April 15 2014 - 01:12 PM

I find it interesting that the “NYC Politicians” would say “Whether the walkout was technically legal or not” that they would threaten to cancel city contracts that give UPS millions of dollars in breaks on parking fines”.

 

Is that legal? 


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Posted April 15 2014 - 01:30 PM

I find it interesting that the “NYC Politicians” would say “Whether the walkout was technically legal or not” that they would threaten to cancel city contracts that give UPS millions of dollars in breaks on parking fines”.

 

Is that legal? 

 

The World Socialist Web Site puts a "different spin" on this situation.  

 

The following article appears to put it all in perspective:

 

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Teamsters officials agree to pay UPS and accept ten-day suspensions to end revolt against firings

14 April 2014

http://www.wsws.org/...14/ups-a14.html

 

The agreement with UPS is also being hailed by various pseudo-left groups such as Labor Notes, who peddle the claim that the company has “backed down” under pressure. The company’s policies of speedup and harassment remain intact, however, and it is quite possible that the Maspeth strikers will be victimized again in the future, once the publicity has subsided. The agreement must be seen for what it is: a stab in the back not only to the workers at the Maspeth facility, but to all workers, as they face increasing attacks from public and private employers.

 

The idea that pressure on Democrats and union officials is effective in defending workers is a dangerous trap. The UPS workers and all New York City workers can place no faith in either. In the fight against speedup and other forms of harassment, as well as the fight for new contracts covering municipal workers, it will be necessary to build rank-and-file committees, independent of both the unions and the Democrats, to unite all workers in a common struggle based on a socialist program.

 

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Posted April 15 2014 - 03:58 PM

Maspeth workers did the right thing they walked when their BA told them to, the BA and the local were wrong so please don!t make it sound like a victory for labor for it is not  will all officials also take a two week pay cut like the men at Maspeth will the rest of the Local donate money to help these Teamsters pay their bills will other Locals do the same if you want to send a message do it as a group  stop running to stops take your lunch be extra safe don!t go to work sick do your job but show them as a Local how unhappy you are .


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Posted April 15 2014 - 04:04 PM

Farley  Working to the RULE  would make a great T shirt money made could be use to pay workers fines  what would  UPS do. I will buy  one for my ups driver


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Posted April 15 2014 - 06:42 PM

that is the point Local 138...it is unfortunate that you were not calling the shots instead of the 804 toodle-losers that caused tremendous damage to the members, the Contract, and to resolution of future disputes. "Working to Rule" certainly makes more sense that to fatally jeopardize the livelihoods of 250 Teamster families, but then, the toodle-losers never think through any situation...they shoot first and never ask any questions.

How do you explain the fact that the BA who called for the 250 to strike is not a TDU member. 

 

Yes , farley we know how much you hate the tdu, the fact remains, that the TDU has about 800 members and almost no money. 


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Posted April 15 2014 - 06:46 PM

Maspeth workers did the right thing they walked when their BA told them to, the BA and the local were wrong so please don!t make it sound like a victory for labor for it is not  will all officials also take a two week pay cut like the men at Maspeth will the rest of the Local donate money to help these Teamsters pay their bills will other Locals do the same if you want to send a message do it as a group  stop running to stops take your lunch be extra safe don!t go to work sick do your job but show them as a Local how unhappy you are .

It is a victory for UPSers, because it showed UPS that they aren't in control of all things all the time. 


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Posted April 15 2014 - 07:36 PM

UPS Teamster,

Don't know who first posted that the BA who called the strike was not part of the Sylvester Slate, but that is just not accurate.  The BA in question campaigned for and was appointed by Sylvester at the beginning of their first term.  When they ran for the second term, that BA was a candidate on the Sylvester Slate and was elected along with the entire slate.


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Posted April 16 2014 - 01:39 AM

The people who post here seem to be on damage control but it's far from the truth of the matter

The BA, Liam Russertt was hand picked by Tim Sylvester and was groomed to handle the Maspeth facility directly so that Tim Sylvester didn't have to be the BA there any longer.

This was as you'll soon see, Not a victory for workers, unions or local 804. This was a blunder and the negative effects are yet to felt.


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Posted April 16 2014 - 03:28 AM

The people who post here seem to be on damage control but it's far from the truth of the matter

The BA, Liam Russertt was hand picked by Tim Sylvester and was groomed to handle the Maspeth facility directly so that Tim Sylvester didn't have to be the BA there any longer.

This was as you'll soon see, Not a victory for workers, unions or local 804. This was a blunder and the negative effects are yet to felt.

 

The people who post here seem to be on damage control but it's far from the truth of the matter

The BA, Liam Russertt was hand picked by Tim Sylvester and was groomed to handle the Maspeth facility directly so that Tim Sylvester didn't have to be the BA there any longer.

This was as you'll soon see, Not a victory for workers, unions or local 804. This was a blunder and the negative effects are yet to felt.

Do you work at UPS?


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Posted April 16 2014 - 03:47 AM

 
Do you work at UPS?

Do you? I have very serious doubt that you could.
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Posted April 16 2014 - 02:35 PM

NETeamster...not sure what you mean by damage control but your assertion that "The BA, Liam Russertt was hand picked by Tim Sylvester and was groomed to handle the Maspeth facility directly so that Tim Sylvester didn't have to be the BA there any longer." is just not accurate.

 

Tim certainly picked ALL the members of his slate, but Liam did not run for office when Tim was first elected.  Liam did campaign for Tim and was appointed as a BA when Tim and his slate were elected.  After Tim's first term, Liam did run on Tim's slate and was elected with the rest of the slate.  Tim was not the BA for the Maspeth facility during his first term so there was no need to groom Liam to "handle the Maspeth facility directly so that Tim Sylvester didn't have to be the BA there any longer."  Liam was a driver out of the Maspeth facility.  It seemed like a logical fit, but it did not happen the way you portray it.


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Posted April 16 2014 - 05:42 PM

what a success...804 has cost it's members over $500,000.00 in wages, will have to pay reimbursement to UPS from the members' treasury. made UPS look compassionate and caring...and made their toodle-loser leadership look like fools....GO..TDU we all knew you could do it!....................... rah rah rah!


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Posted April 16 2014 - 06:35 PM

what a success...804 has cost it's members over $500,000.00 in wages, will have to pay reimbursement to UPS from the members' treasury. made UPS look compassionate and caring...and made their toodle-loser leadership look like fools....GO..TDU we all knew you could do it!....................... rah rah rah!

Made UPS look compassionate and caring? You are such a company man farley.


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Posted April 16 2014 - 10:59 PM

UPS........... the fired drivers have their jobs without going through the grievance process....do you even have an inkling what this means?   UPS was willing to reinstate without a decision and 804 was unwilling to stand on their alleged  "principles"...now who looks better, and why did the toodle-losers manufacture a situation that ever made UPS look like the good guy?  shame on 804, and double shame on the toodle-losers!


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Posted April 17 2014 - 01:22 AM

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Posted April 17 2014 - 01:27 AM

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Posted April 17 2014 - 02:37 AM

No BoBo, Its exactly as I portrayed it.

 

Both Liam and Tim came from the Maspeth facility. Tim wanted to shed himself of the BA portion of his job and groomed Liam to handle the responsibility. Remember this is the “Home of Ron Carey” Nothing happens without Tim's knowledge. 


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Posted April 17 2014 - 03:26 AM

UPS........... the fired drivers have their jobs without going through the grievance process....do you even have an inkling what this means?   UPS was willing to reinstate without a decision and 804 was unwilling to stand on their alleged  "principles"...now who looks better, and why did the toodle-losers manufacture a situation that ever made UPS look like the good guy?  shame on 804, and double shame on the toodle-losers!

LOL! Ok, company man.


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Posted April 17 2014 - 01:13 PM

UPS Teamster...if anyone is a 'company man" it is the misguided fool(s) that created the scenario where the drivers were thrown to the wolves......the result...the Union looks foolish...the company looks forgiving......not a good situation for the Union .....the toodle-losers are the ultimate "company men" in this case...and you want to name me because I just told the truth about the situation......guess it stands to reason since all of you toodle-losers have no ability to think strategically or objectively.


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