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Poll: will they show up or not (8 member(s) have cast votes)

will those local 952 "reformers" show up

  1. no (1 votes [12.50%] - View)

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  2. not a chance. (1 votes [12.50%] - View)

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  3. not just no but hell no (3 votes [37.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.50%

  4. are you nuts we are cowards (0 votes [0.00%])

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  5. hey it would only be the five of us against rk so no f-ing way (1 votes [12.50%] - View)

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  6. nah...there maybe 200 screen names but there are really only ten posters (1 votes [12.50%] - View)

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  7. odds are biker will backout of a face to face like he did in las vegas (1 votes [12.50%] - View)

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#41 11:58pm

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Posted March 11 2012 - 04:42 AM

Sherman, You look pretty stupid from here so I guess you loose. I mean Anyone who worships ken paff and that disgraced former teamster peice of turd ron carey has got to be a looser always.

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Posted March 11 2012 - 08:16 AM

i forgot to ask rk yesterday if anyone ever took him up on his challenge to debate i bet those ***** reformers out of 63 396 572 630 952 never showed long live the kgs because they now seem to be doing some wonderful things at 630 this local is on a fast track to being a powerhouse in jc42

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Posted March 11 2012 - 10:57 AM

View PostShaman, on March 11 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:


I found this on the Internet. It may be true or it may not be. Please post links to sources that would indicate that this is or isn't true. You can write a summary or rant. Think of this as a video game. You win if you don't look like you are stupid.
I don't have to prove anything to you. Being involved with my Union tells me what I posted not something I read on the internet. And if you compare your bullshit to a video game then who do you think is truly stupid.

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Posted March 11 2012 - 12:15 PM

View Postlocal952, on March 11 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

I don't have to prove anything to you. Being involved with my Union tells me what I posted not something I read on the internet. And if you compare your bullshit to a video game then who do you think is truly stupid.

I suggest that you take a close look at your sentence structure. "Being involved with my Union tells me what I posted" doesn't make sense. I realize that critical thinking can be painful.

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Posted March 11 2012 - 12:53 PM

View PostShaman, on March 11 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:


I suggest that you take a close look at your sentence structure. "Being involved with my Union tells me what I posted" doesn't make sense. I realize that critical thinking can be painful.
I don't believe critical thinking or independent thinking is your strong point since you obviously have to use the internet for any knowledge. I'll make this real simple so you can understand. I was involved with the organization campaign which the Union and UPS agreed to. Don't need the internet when your actually involved. Looking forward to any grammar lessons you can can give me and continued luck with your etch a sketch.
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Posted March 11 2012 - 12:56 PM

View Postlocal952, on March 11 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

I don't believe critical thinking or independent thinking is your strong point since you obviously have to use the internet for any knowledge. I'll make this real simple so you can understand. I was involved with the organization campaign which the Union and UPS agreed to. Don't need the internet when your actually involved. Looking forward to any grammar lessons you can can give me and continued luck with your etch a sketch.

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Posted March 11 2012 - 01:19 PM

View Postlocal952, on March 11 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

I don't believe critical thinking or independent thinking is your strong point since you obviously have to use the internet for any knowledge. I'll make this real simple so you can understand. I was involved with the organization campaign which the Union and UPS agreed to. Don't need the internet when your actually involved. Looking forward to any grammar lessons you can can give me and continued luck with your etch a sketch.

This is the most bizarre conclusion that I can imagine. In your world it is clear that anyone with knowledge that builds on the studies of others is not an independent thinker. An independent thinker would be someone that doesn't read. You sound like a follower of Rick Santorum.


Rick Santorum presses culture wars attack @ http://www.washingto...kicR_story.html

DETROIT — Rick Santorum has opened up a new and provocative front in the political culture wars as he boldly tries to cast the race for the White House as a battle between the secular and the religious.

In back-to-back speeches over the weekend, the candidate described President Obama as “a snob” for focusing on the importance of a college education and disparaged the idea of a separation between church and state by attacking President John F. Kennedy, who made it a Campaigning here Saturday, Santorum said Obama’s focus on higher education constitutes “indoctrination” into the president’s way of thinking.
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Posted March 11 2012 - 04:43 PM

shaman "you found it on the internet" certainly a great unimpeachable source...........I'll bet you can find some place on the "internet" where Ron Carey was not banished fo life from the Teamsters for benefitting from embezzeled and laundered IBT and DRIVE funds to finance his 1996 election campaign.......when we all know that Carey and the toodleoo did benefit from embezzeled and laundered funds .....eh shaman?

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Posted March 11 2012 - 06:32 PM

View PostShaman, on March 11 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:


This is the most bizarre conclusion that I can imagine. In your world it is clear that anyone with knowledge that builds on the studies of others is not an independent thinker. An independent thinker would be someone that doesn't read. You sound like a follower of Rick Santorum.


Rick Santorum presses culture wars attack @ http://www.washingto...kicR_story.html

DETROIT — Rick Santorum has opened up a new and provocative front in the political culture wars as he boldly tries to cast the race for the White House as a battle between the secular and the religious.

In back-to-back speeches over the weekend, the candidate described President Obama as “a snob” for focusing on the importance of a college education and disparaged the idea of a separation between church and state by attacking President John F. Kennedy, who made it a Campaigning here Saturday, Santorum said Obama’s focus on higher education constitutes “indoctrination” into the president’s way of thinking.
First thing is where the hell did Santorum come in to this conversation. Second thing is you are wrong about UPS Freight not being Union and can't admit your blunder because the internet says different and your ego is too big. Continued success with the crayon drawings and etch a sketch.

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Posted March 12 2012 - 12:38 AM

Reliability of Wikipedia


The reliability of Wikipedia (primarily of the English-language edition), compared to other encyclopedias and more specialized sources, is assessed in many ways, including statistically, through comparative review, analysis of the historical patterns, and strengths and weaknesses inherent in the editing process unique to Wikipedia.[1]

Several studies have been done to assess the reliability of Wikipedia. A notable early study in the journal Nature said that in 2005, Wikipedia scientific articles came close to the level of accuracy in Encyclopædia Britannica and had a similar rate of "serious errors".[2] The study by Nature was disputed by Encyclopædia Britannica,[3] and later Nature responded to this refutation with both a formal response and a point-by-point rebuttal of Britannica's main objections.[4] Between 2008 and 2010, articles in medical and scientific fields such aspathology,[5] toxicology,[6] oncology[7] and pharmaceuticals[8] comparing Wikipedia to professional and peer-reviewed sources found that Wikipedia's depth and coverage were of a high standard. Concerns regarding readability have been raised.[9] However, omissions sometimes remained an issue, at times due to public relations removal of adverse product information.

Wikipedia is open to anonymous and collaborative editing, so assessments of its reliability usually include examinations of how quickly false or misleading information is removed. An early study conducted by IBM researchers in 2003—two years following Wikipedia's establishment—found that "vandalism is usually repaired extremely quickly — so quickly that most users will never see its effects"[10] and concluded that Wikipedia had "surprisingly effective self-healing capabilities".[11] A 2007 peer-reviewed study stated that "42% of damage is repaired almost immediately... Nonetheless, there are still hundreds of millions of damaged views.

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Posted March 12 2012 - 09:59 AM

Ron Carey and his toodleoo incompetence and corruption are "history'....and shaman....those that refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it................it is my job to step in when toodleooers try to rewrite the sordid history of the Teamsters from 1991 until 1997-8 while the toodleoo and Carey were in charge by whitewashing Carey's corruption and attempted destruction of our Union. If you are so close to Paffy and the toodleoo ....tell them to come clean on ALL of their funding sources....including the corporate foundation money that flows through their money laundries, the TRF and the AUD?

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Posted March 12 2012 - 11:14 AM

View PostFarley, on March 12 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

Ron Carey and his toodleoo incompetence and corruption are "history'....and shaman....those that refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it................it is my job to step in when toodleooers try to rewrite the sordid history of the Teamsters from 1991 until 1997-8 while the toodleoo and Carey were in charge by whitewashing Carey's corruption and attempted destruction of our Union. If you are so close to Paffy and the toodleoo ....tell them to come clean on ALL of their funding sources....including the corporate foundation money that flows through their money laundries, the TRF and the AUD?

You can rewrite history in your mind or you can submit material to Wikipedia. I am certain that many of your brothers and sisters here on Teamster.net would be fascinated to watch the process. This will give you a golden opportunity to criticize Wikipedia and their advisors for using material that you can show is not correct. Best wishes in this endeavor.
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Posted March 12 2012 - 07:03 PM

View PostShaman, on March 12 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:


You can rewrite history in your mind or you can submit material to Wikipedia. I am certain that many of your brothers and sisters here on Teamster.net would be fascinated to watch the process. This will give you a golden opportunity to criticize Wikipedia and their advisors for using material that you can show is not correct. Best wishes in this endeavor.
why would anyone criticize Wikipedia. Your posting the bullshit that isn't true because you have no first hand knowledge and rely on others for information you don't know is true or not. Again can you spell EGO.

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Posted March 12 2012 - 10:31 PM

Ego is a Latin word meaning "I", cognate with the Greek "Εγώ (Ego)" meaning "I", often used in English to mean the "self", "identity" or other related concepts.

Ego on Wikipedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego

Ego is a fascinating subject. I am an informal student of Nondualism. At the essence of nondualism is a realization and experience of the unity of all things. Such an experience is outside the rational paradigm.

"Nondualism is a term used to denote affinity, or unity, rather than duality or separateness or multiplicity. In reference to the universe it may be used to denote the idea that things appear distinct while not being separate. The term "nondual" (meaning "not two") can refer to a belief, condition, theory, practice, or quality. Nondualism has been linked with "Monism" or "qualified monism" with which it is sometimes confused (even conflated)."

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Posted March 12 2012 - 11:47 PM

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Posted March 13 2012 - 02:24 AM

Dear TNet, I believe all of Sherman's posts should be moved to the section titled" I need help"

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Posted March 13 2012 - 02:22 PM

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