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[damagedgoods]

Apparently someone has a major case of "LOVE ME DADDY" syndrome. What you lack in self confidence, you make up in self promotion. I mean bragging about how many charitable donations you make just screams "LOOK AT ME, NOTICE ME!" Good for you, I hope you keep announcing your donations and contributions, because after all announcing your good deeds doesn't come off as shallow at all. Matter of fact it shows exactly where your heart was. So keep filling the void in your life, and remember emptiness always gives way to purpose. And revenge helps make bad choices.

Now as the for the rest of your babble, trying to hide behind 'AMERICA' is even low for you. Even with all the cliches you used doesn't take away from the fact that you consciously try to hurt and ruin 'AMERICAN' lives on a daily basis. Taking a paycheck to stop families from pursuing the 'AMERICAN' dream. Honestly, how does a person sleep at night knowing that their main mission is to destroy the hopes and dreams of the everyday 'AMERICAN'? Oh I forgot... you DONATE. That definitely alleviates a lot questions. What's funny is that your constant reassurance and self affirmation makes you so very transparent and insecure. To think that a single person or group of misguided individuals represented the whole Union to you is small minded. I guess your educated mind comes equipped with blinders. The Teamsters Union is entity that allows for individuals to pursue different goals without the worry of being persecuted. I understand that the Union is not for everyone, but why not have the option to make that choice for themselves. You can't honestly tell me that a non-union worker has a better quality of life than a Union worker. If you do, you are truly delusional which means your time as an organizer for the IBT was just for a paycheck, and your rhetoric was all scripted bull ****. Talk about standing up for your FREEDOM, give me a break. You stand for nothing and insist that others follow.

You are what's wrong with this Country, You hide behind our beloved flag while cutting the throats of true 'AMERICANS'! Shame on you. You're starting to believe your own lies. When lies become your truth, then you have truly lost your way.

BTW, YOU STILL SUCK UNION BUSTING SCAB!

[CEO896]

It looks like the union busting has made it's way to the forum. Ricardo or Retardo must have put out a personal request to his girlfriend. Sherri is trying to distract from the real issue here.

Recognize the Organizers! Plain and simple. What's the hold up?

[CEO896]

Thee 99%, on January 29 2012 - 10:35 AM, said:

I was told last night that the brother the IBT let go was a rank n file member out of 952, i believe he comes out of freight. It was also confirmed to me that they did indeed hire some guy from the LA Fed to replace him. It's a disgrace that a rank and file member gets replaced by a NON-Teamster just because he know's Manny.

You wouldn't happen to know if that was Terry Slagle? I think he comes out of 952. If so, he is a good organizer and should be treated as such.

[atwilliam]

this is not about her it is about our union and the IBT staff organizers demanding recognition it is between employees and their employer do you support the employees or do you support the employer


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[Caracol_La Fuerza]

CEO896, on January 31 2012 - 04:57 PM, said:

It looks like the union busting has made it's way to the forum. Ricardo or Retardo must have put out a personal request to his girlfriend. Sherri is trying to distract from the real issue here.

Recognize the Organizers! Plain and simple. What's the hold up?

atwilliam, on January 31 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

this is not about her it is about our union and the IBT staff organizers demanding recognition it is between employees and their employer do you support the employees or do you support the employer


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CEO896 per your post am I to take that Retardo is not only against the organizing effort but is actively organizing against it. I would have to say that is UNION BUSTING at its best. Why is this being allowed? Did his sugar daddy MANNY put him up to this? What did he promise him? Do the organizers pay dues? What does the Local he pays dues to have to say about his UNION BUSTING? I bet they are proud to have an in house BUSTER!

What other organizer is out there collecting a check? If you are campaigning against this you truly do NOT believe in the rights for workers and shouldn't even be a TEAMSTER let alone an organizer!

atwilliam the point of this thread is about the organizing drive to achieve a CBA. I would hope that people will respect that and show the support for our UNION was founded on the need for Organized Labor.

HOFFA IS THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN STOP THIS BY RECOGNIZING THE ORGANIZERS THAT FIGHT FOR THIS UNION ON A DAILY BASIS!!!!

What will HOFFA do recognize the organizers or drag this UNION through the mud?

Hoffa where do you stand on the Employee Free Choice Act?

Hoffa is this how we are to STOP the WAR on WORKERS?

Hoffa it is time to do the right thing and recognize the organizers that sacrifice their FAMILY for OUR GREAT UNION!

JAMES R HOFFA would DO RIGHT BY HIS ORGANIZERS!

[Sherri Henry]

Since 2008 Hoffa has known the FIELD ORGANIZERS wanted to be RECOGNIZED and he has turned his head!


It would be nice to think he will, but as I recall the OFFICE STAFF had a rough time through negotiations....why should this be any different?

Then again, the OFFICE STAFF that handle all the CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION for this UNION at the IBT, aren't TEAMSTERS either!


If the MEMBERS won't stand up for their non-teamster International employees, HOFFA is NOT going TO listen!



This UNION needs its MEMBERS to take OWNERSHIP OF their UNION!



There is NO ACCOUNTABILITY at the IBT!

[Sherri Henry]

damagedgoods

The Teamsters Union is entity that allows for individuals to pursue different goals without the worry of being persecuted. I understand that the Union is not for everyone, but why not have the option to make that choice for themselves. You can't honestly tell me that a non-union worker has a better quality of life than a Union worker. If you do, you are truly delusional which means your time as an organizer for the IBT was just for a paycheck, and your rhetoric was all scripted bull ****. Talk about standing up for your FREEDOM, give me a break. You stand for nothing and insist that others follow.



You kind of remind me of choir boy Bashem over in California. You two seem to have the same mentality.
You say something really smart, then something really dumb!

For example, I never said anything about a non-union worker having it better than a union worker or the other way around. I absolutely said, people are NON-UNION by choice and UNION by Choice, but I do not believe all TEAMSTERS are TEAMSTERS by choice.
Your comments are not even close to what I said.
I absolutely believe everyone has a choice. I have a UNION Card in my WALLET, but that doesn't ******* mean I believe everything the damn union tells me.
Nor does it mean that I believe THIS UNION shouldn't be ACCOUNTABLE for denying DUES PAYING MEMBERS REPRESENTATIONAL RIGHTS. This UNION is GUILTY as HELL for DOING that. This is undisputed.

Personally, I don't know you, but you seem to know me, which is quite intriguing.

So why don't you come out from behind the mask and DON'T be AFRAID of your GREAT AMERICAN UNION. Stand tall and proud and speak with confidence that the FREEDOM of SPEECH will be honored within your TEAMSTERS UNION.

I am NOT afraid ......... why are you?

[Thee 99%]

Listen guys this thread is going sideways. Stop responding to Sherri's post, all she want's is attention. She should be out looking for another bus driving job, maybe she'll have better luck with the little kids listening to her.

I hear Manny is in Southern California, i guess Farmer wants him here to do some more union busting. So whats it like to be on the employer campaign Manny? Whats your strategy? Maybe you can bring back all those organizers that you so called trained that are now union busters! How many does that come to now? 4 or 5. But i have to give it to you mindja, you hired them. My thinking is you surround yourself with non rank & file because they know no better, they won't speak up to the boss. You love that don't you Manny ? Surround yourself with some hardcore rank & file'rs. You won't stand a chance!! THATS WHY NO ONE IN SO-CAL LIKES YOU ! I'm sure your out there somewhere spilling your coffee like always trying to figure out who's posting on this site! It's the ghost of Teamsters past, How many rank & file'rs have you fired Manny? How many live's have you destroyed by pulling brothers out of their contracts only to be let go in 4 years? You left them out in the wind with no retreat rights! Come on MR I've been a Teamster since "74 ! YOU SELLOUT !

[CEO896]

[11:58pm]

So I have to admit that I've become curious about possible outcomes for the topic at hand.

We have what most of you call "non rank and file organizers" filing for recognition.

What then will come next? Who will be their bargaining agent? Another union? Perhaps the IAM. What will be their conditions of employment? If they fail to organize new members will the IBT membership be stuck paying their salaries for life? There is a reason that since the beginning of time organizers have been temporary and "at will" employees. I think my questions scratch that surface.
Curious to hear all the wonderful thoughts and answers to these questions from TEAMSTERS, not from Sherri Henry. BTW Sherri, the IBT was just held accountable. Or maybe you didn't see the results of the last election.

[yougottabekiddin]

Lol SHERRI (as she likes to be called) has emerged from the Tastee Freeze kitchen long enough to slap her greasy fingers on the keyboard again..This pathetic, fat cow is clinging to her sad life of misery only to cry out for help. But no one will answer. Because in all honesty, she really will be better off when she drags her prodigious a s s up on a chair and ties a rope around her neck. Of course, it will take a very sturdy chair and some kind of cable to keep from snapping when it goes taut from the weight of all that useless cellulite. "Look out below!!!!" And not even her 36 cats will miss her. But at least there will be enough lard for them to feed off of until the winter breaks and people start to wonder about the awful smell. Of course, they may not even notice a DIFFERENCE in the smell that emanates from her dingy hovel every day. But at least her miserable bout with insanity will be over.

[UPSR396]

11:58pm, on February 01 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

So I have to admit that I've become curious about possible outcomes for the topic at hand.

We have what most of you call "non rank and file organizers" filing for recognition.

What then will come next? Who will be their bargaining agent? Another union? Perhaps the IAM. What will be their conditions of employment? If they fail to organize new members will the IBT membership be stuck paying their salaries for life? There is a reason that since the beginning of time organizers have been temporary and "at will" employees. I think my questions scratch that surface.
Curious to hear all the wonderful thoughts and answers to these questions from TEAMSTERS, not from Sherri Henry. BTW Sherri, the IBT was just held accountable. Or maybe you didn't see the results of the last election.

Your post came at a perfect time. I just had a discussion regarding these concerns with some staff organizers out of Florida and elsewhere. Before I get into this let me preface this by saying that I am a die hard Hoffa Teamster, so naturally I was reluctant to post before this. With that being said, I raised the issue with actual rank and file organizers that feel misled by the department and want change. They claimed that they're not anti - Hoffa, but he is the direct means to an end. They mentioned that they already have a Teamster Local that will represent them. The IBT sent them a letter saying they would negotiate if the organizers were represented by a different union, in which they replied that the whole reason for doing this is to keep it within the organization. (which I thought was right on.) Now I don't appreciate brothers and sisters bashing our General President (not that anyone did), nor do I believe challenging him is the right way to be recognized(which has happened). I do believe we as Teamsters sometimes have to pick a battle and stand behind it. I also believe that to be under the Teamster umbrella there should be no at will status. I'm still torn between two issues and beliefs that strongly represent my Union to me.

As for the Organizers seeking recognition, be smart and keep this campaign on the same road all the way through as when you started it. Don't get side tracked by anger. And remember when all is said and done, you still have to deal with these people. And for any reason 'Hoffa bashing' is in your future - think twice. This feels to me like my friends are picking a fight with my family. - still confused concerned.. Sorry I got off track.

[CEO896]

UPSR396 - I read your other post and noticed that you sound pro-organizing. And as you stated you are also like most of us pro-Hoffa. Unfortunately he seems to be the only one that can put an end to this. I've also talked to organizers on this campaign and feel no one wants to address this issue because it directly concerns our General President. I don't think you have to hate someone to seek change, you just have to be tired of being mistreated. UPSR396, I think you have said what so many have wanted to, and that takes balls. But you should also get behind an issue and stick to it no matter what roadblock is in front of you. I might sound like a broken record but if they can't take a stand, how can they ask the unorganized to do it. That's hypocrisy at it's finest.

I bid you Adieu good Sir!

[atwilliam]

11:58pm, on February 01 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

So I have to admit that I've become curious about possible outcomes for the topic at hand.

We have what most of you call "non rank and file organizers" filing for recognition.

What then will come next? Who will be their bargaining agent? Another union? Perhaps the IAM. What will be their conditions of employment? If they fail to organize new members will the IBT membership be stuck paying their salaries for life? There is a reason that since the beginning of time organizers have been temporary and "at will" employees. I think my questions scratch that surface.
Curious to hear all the wonderful thoughts and answers to these questions from TEAMSTERS, not from Sherri Henry. BTW Sherri, the IBT was just held accountable. Or maybe you didn't see the results of the last election.

[atwilliam]

After all the Campaigning by the Teamsters for EFCA, Stop the War on Workers and worker justice there is only one outcome to recognize the organizers.

What then will come next? Who will be their bargaining agent? What will be their conditions of employment?
What should come next is a round of negotiations in good faith.
The bargaining agent has been identified in the petition.
The conditions of employment shall be be defined in the CBA as always.

If they fail to organize will the members of the IBT be stuck paying their salaries for life?

Failing is not an option that Hoffa should be looking at for closure. The issues have been created by Hoffa's negligence to duty. Paying salaries is part of the deparments malfunction due to the preferential gaps in pay it has created. To maintain an organizing department will cost the members money. The question you should ask yourself is it better to have people who believe in the Labor Movement or to have the active union busters on payroll forever.

There is a reason that since the beginning of time organizers have been "at will" employees. I think my questions scratch that surface.

As a Teamster for you to post this question and to accept it is wrong. How can you be ok with anyone being "AT WILL"?

In the old days Organizers where true hearted individuals willing to grow and strengthen the Teamsters. The days of tire jax, baseball bats, radiator spikes and etc. are not to far gone. What has change is the administration has gone outside the ranks to hire HR director from the most anti union company (MARRIOT) to lead Teamsters HR. To scrutinize all and every employee of the IBT and instill the fear of an "AT WILL" employee status by which she has forced the hand of many to support the organizing drive.
Curious to hear all the wonderful thoughts and answers to these questions.

Curiosity will only kill the cat if the cat allows it to.
Curious to know how you feel about Hoffa's denying to recognize his soldiers for lack of a better term. Which by the way is in insult to all prior service men and women that are currently organizers. To have an ARMY one must lead by example this is clearly not the point.

[Thee 99%]

Retardo texted me this picture of Manny contemplating the next move ...

[Thee 99%]

I've been a Teamster since "74 Retardo !! Don't they understand??
minja !!!

[Caracol_La Fuerza]

UPSR396, on February 01 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Your post came at a perfect time. I just had a discussion regarding these concerns with some staff organizers out of Florida and elsewhere. Before I get into this let me preface this by saying that I am a die hard Hoffa Teamster, so naturally I was reluctant to post before this. With that being said, I raised the issue with actual rank and file organizers that feel misled by the department and want change. They claimed that they're not anti - Hoffa, but he is the direct means to an end. They mentioned that they already have a Teamster Local that will represent them. The IBT sent them a letter saying they would negotiate if the organizers were represented by a different union, in which they replied that the whole reason for doing this is to keep it within the organization. (which I thought was right on.) Now I don't appreciate brothers and sisters bashing our General President (not that anyone did), nor do I believe challenging him is the right way to be recognized(which has happened). I do believe we as Teamsters sometimes have to pick a battle and stand behind it. I also believe that to be under the Teamster umbrella there should be no at will status. I'm still torn between two issues and beliefs that strongly represent my Union to me.

As for the Organizers seeking recognition, be smart and keep this campaign on the same road all the way through as when you started it. Don't get side tracked by anger. And remember when all is said and done, you still have to deal with these people. And for any reason 'Hoffa bashing' is in your future - think twice. This feels to me like my friends are picking a fight with my family. - still confused concerned.. Sorry I got off track.

General President Hoffa is the only one who can make this call. As organizers are trained to direct any leverage or pressure at those in the power to call the shots. I must say that the organizers are Hoffa supporters and have been around many years. That is why the push to another union is unacceptable.

What would an organizer say when asked about their contract? I'm represented by another union. Doesn't make sense if I may say so.

I don't see any bashing of Hoffa from time to time people need to be reminded of what they stand for and the fact that it applies at all times even at home. Hoffa don't be mislead or allow any more smoke and mirrors to affect your judgement on this.

Hoffa do the right thing and recognize the organizers today

[Sherri Henry]

11:58pm, on February 01 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

So I have to admit that I've become curious about possible outcomes for the topic at hand.

We have what most of you call "non rank and file organizers" filing for recognition.

What then will come next? Who will be their bargaining agent? Another union? Perhaps the IAM. What will be their conditions of employment? If they fail to organize new members will the IBT membership be stuck paying their salaries for life? There is a reason that since the beginning of time organizers have been temporary and "at will" employees. I think my questions scratch that surface.
Curious to hear all the wonderful thoughts and answers to these questions from TEAMSTERS, not from Sherri Henry. BTW Sherri, the IBT was just held accountable. Or maybe you didn't see the results of the last election.

Which election would you be referring to?

[Sherri Henry]

11:58pm, on February 01 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

So I have to admit that I've become curious about possible outcomes for the topic at hand.

We have what most of you call "non rank and file organizers" filing for recognition.

What then will come next? Who will be their bargaining agent? Another union? Perhaps the IAM. What will be their conditions of employment? If they fail to organize new members will the IBT membership be stuck paying their salaries for life? There is a reason that since the beginning of time organizers have been temporary and "at will" employees. I think my questions scratch that surface.
Curious to hear all the wonderful thoughts and answers to these questions from TEAMSTERS, not from Sherri Henry. BTW Sherri, the IBT was just held accountable. Or maybe you didn't see the results of the last election.

Temporary employees will be excluded and

"since the beginning of time organizers have been temporary"

Is an inaccurate statement. Organizers at the IBT did not become "temporary" in an official capacity until April 2008.
Anyone regardless of their employer or their employment status is "at will" unless they are included in a CBA or they are employed in a state that requires just cause termination.