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[xg22]

I have been on their website and did a search but can't find anything, even under the Motion Picture and Theatrical Trade section but no where do I see a statement regarding their support but I do see it in the List of Opposers.





Interests that support this bill:

◦Pharmaceutical manufacturing◦Chambers of commerce◦Building trades unions◦IBEW (Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers)◦Teamsters union

◦Police & firefighters unions & associations◦Entertainment unions◦Republican/Conservative◦Christian Conservative◦Fiscal & tax policy


http://www.opencongr...112-h3261/money

[Farley]

we (Teamsters) and the American people need to understaND WHAT HAVOC THIS BILL WILL HAVE ON OUR LIBERTY AND WE NEED TO OPPOSE IT

[xg22]

Seems the USA will follow in the footsteps of the Liberty promoting land of.....get ready for it.....Belarus


There’s a lot of talk that SOPA will essentially destroy U.S. Internet and cause digital plague that will creep out to the web at large. If you needed a case study, keep on eye Belarus, which has just illegalized the use of foreign websites.


Information about the law from the Library of Congress:


http://www.geekosyst...s-foreign-site/


Belarus limits use of 'foreign' websites

Until now Belarus’ sole space for freedom, the Internet, has just been put under a regulatory microscope by the government in the wake of a repressive order which entered into effect in July 2010. The suspicious death of an online journalist has traumatised the profession. In the run-up to the elections, and during the demonstrations following the disputed re-election of Alexander Lukashenko, "Europe’s last dictator" civil society has witnessed crackdowns both offline, against demonstrators and journalists, and online, via blockings, cyberattacks and tampering.


http://api.viglink.c..._13255868490404

[xg22]

In an incredible turn of events, six Republican Senators have asked Majority Leader Harry Reid not to hold a vote on PIPA, the Senate version of SOPA.

They write, “Prior to committee action, some members expressed substantive concerns about the bill, and there was a commitment to resolve them prior to floor consideration. That resolution has not yet occurred.”

And as an amazing validation of the grassroots response to SOPA, led by groups like Fight for the Future, EFF, Public Knowledge, and Demand Progress, they write, “Since the mark-up, we have increasingly heard from a large number of constituents and other stakeholders with vocal concerns about possible unintended consequences of the proposed legislation, including breaches in cybersecurity, damaging the integrity of the Internet, costly and burdensome litigation, and dilution of First Amendment rights.”

http://www.opencongr...-to-Cancel-Vote

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

Anybody try going to Wikipedia today? Those people really know how to campaign and get the word out!

[xg22]

Yes, I checked it out this morning to see what they would do and it's below.

There have been some interesting developments in this saga.


What this all comes down to is a Copyright Infringement argument. Or should I say enforcement of such. The perpetrators of these bills are using the words theft and stealing when the reality is they wan't the gov to create 'new' and 'enforce' penalties for copyright infringement.



Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian ; "Why is it that when Republicans and Democrats need to solve the budget and the deficit, there's deadlock, but when Hollywood lobbyists pay them $94 million dollars to write legislation, people from both sides of the aisle line up to co-sponsor it?"


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowling_v ... %281985%29

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_ ... ted_States



President of the Consumer Electronics Association at CES: SOPA is supported by "politicians who are proudly unfamiliar with how the internet works, but who are well familiar with favors from well-heeled copyright extremists", likens SOPA to federal bribery


http://www.dailytech.com/CES+2012+CEA+P ... e23726.htm





But Oatmeal has the best commentary

http://theoatmeal.com/sopa

[scb]

xg22-

I'll admit that I don't have a complete understanding of the full implications of the specific proposal. That said, however - and as one who's gone to court to protect his intellectual property - I can completely understand why a cut 'n' paste type of individual such as yourself would resent any measure that would attempt to counter copyright infringement.

Gosh, what would one do if one was forced to use his OWN words, 'eh? [smile]

-scb-

[xg22]

Regarding the cut n paste issue there are way's to block such activity by the 'originator' and some use it. Some sites will let you copy a few lines and the link but if you want to read the whole story you have to pay a fee via registering and arranging payment.

The SOPA/PIPA Bills are generated by the MPAA and big video game producing entities etc to have the big bad socialist governments at the Fed and State levels to draft new rules and penalties for such.

Apparently those so inclined can download movies and games and songs before, and definetly after, they are released for sale.

And I agree with these proponents of these Bills on this issue. I don't think they should be getting ripped off this way but let's not reconfigure the internet in America under the guise of these bills so that if I link to a site that shows say 'Sarahaha Palin doing the vodoo stuff in her church' results in the provider of said link being persecuted by Sarahaha or the church or whoever dosen't want the public at large to see these bizarre superstitions in action.

[xg22]

So what do we have here?

The DOJ goes after a company that provides the base for downloading 'copyrighted' material instead of some kid in his parents house downloading stuff. What a concept !!

So instead of these Bills being used in nefarious ways if passed, just let those whose job it is to 'police' things like 'copyright infringment' concentrate on that issue.



One of the world's most popular file-sharing sites was shut down Thursday, and its founder and several company officials were accused of facilitating millions of illegal downloads of films, music and other content.

A federal indictment accused Megaupload.com of costing copyright holders at least $500 million in lost revenue.

Megaupload is based in Hong Kong, but some of the alleged pirated content was hosted on leased servers in Ashburn, Va., which gave federal authorities jurisdiction, the indictment said.


The site boasted 150 million registered users and about 50 million hits daily. The Justice Department said it was illegal for anyone to download pirated content, but their investigation focused on the leaders of the company, not end users who may have downloaded a few movies for personal viewing.


http://wtop.com/?nid...256&sid=2713197