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#41 DON CUMMINGS

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Posted November 23 2011 - 07:58 PM

Posted ImageTitan89, on November 17 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

Don, I checked out your post today. Since I work in the area you speak of i knew it was probably another LIE to make Jim look bad and it was just that another LIE!!! I talked to my PT Sup and Ft Sup, both confirmed the spot vacated has not been filled. The Ptimer in the job is still on posi 1 manning list but helps us in irregs until further notice by RM. I talked with the BA handling the case, ask him if you don't believe me!

Your gossip and lies needs to stop! You have no clue as to what you are talking about. If you get a whiff of something, you run with it whether it is true or not to make Jim look bad. You are hurting grievances that are not settled and still pending!

Dewey is a friend of mine and I particuliarly DO Not care for you posting gossip about a NON SLATE MEMBER! He has not been apart of any of this and I do not even know who he supports. So for you to slander him is WRONG!

THIS GOSSIP AS YOU CALL IT CAME STRAIGHT FROM BRANDON ROTH'S MOUTH TALKING TO MANAGEMENT. I REPEATED WHAT ANOTHER HWUS SPOKEMAN, LIKE YOURSELF, SAID. I HAVE WITNESSES TO PROVE IT. WHEN YOU HEAR SOMETHING FROM SOMEONE ELSE, YOU GET ON HERE AND POST IT AS PROOF, BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID IT , IT MUST BE TRUE. IF I DO THIS, EVEN WITH WITNESSES, YOU SAY IT IS GOSSIP AND LIES. ONCE AGAIN, WHY DID JIM ANDERSON TRY, AN ANTI-UNION TACTIC, TO CUT A SIDE DEAL WITH MANAGEMENT TO GET HIS LOWER SENIORITY BROTHER IN LAW INTO THE IRREG JOB. YOU AND JIM ANDERSON ARE IN BED WITH THE COMPANY. IF SOMEONE IS DOING THIS JOB, THEN IT IS FILLED, WHETHER IT IS PERMANENTLY OR TEMPORARILY. IF YOU ARE JIM'S ALTENATE IN THIS BUILDING, YOU PROBABLY HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS OR HAD KNOWLEDGE THAT JIM WAS TRYING TO VIOLATE ANOTHER MEMBER'S SENIORITY. WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO DEFEND THE FACT THAT JIM ANDERSON TRIED TO BYPASS SENIORITY, WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS WRONG? IF JIM ANDERSON HAD NOT TRIED TO MAKE A SIDE DEAL THAT WOULD VIOLATE ANOTHER MEMBER'S SENIORITY, THERE WOULD NOT BE A GRIEVANCE. ANDERSON CAUSED THIS WHOLE PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT STEWARD'S OR ALTERNATE STEWARD'S ASSOCIATING WITH MANAGEMENT DURING OFF WORK HOURS?

ANDERSON HAS PROVEN THAT HE VIOLATES SENIORITY, IF HE BENEFITS FROM IT.
IS THIS WHAT YOU REALLY WANT AS PRESIDENT OF YOUR LOCAL?

VOTE THE ZUCKERMAN-BOLTON SLATE,
THEY UPHOLD SENIORITY.

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Posted December 01 2011 - 07:43 PM

WHY IS NO BALLS ANDERSON AFRAID TO DEBATE FRED ZUCKERMAN?
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Posted December 05 2011 - 07:23 PM

AS FOR THE MAIL IN BALLOTS. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THIS WAS DONE SO THE HOURLY WORKERS SLATE COULD TRY TO CHEAT IN THE ELECTION. ANYONE WITH HALF OF A BRAIN CAN FIGURE THIS ONE OUT. HOKE GOT HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM BY GETTING CAUGHT LYING, AGAIN, BLAIR HAD TO RUN TO TRY AND RESCUE HIM. THESE CLOWNS CAN NOT STOP LYING. ANDERSON DOES NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE, THE EXPERIENCE, OR THE QUALIFICATIONS TO DEBATE PRESIDENT ZUCKERMAN. IF ANDERSON WAS A VIABLE CANDIDATE, HE SHOULD HAVE WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DEBATE PRESIDENT ZUCKERMAN. ANDERSON IS TORE ALL TO PIECES, RIGHT NOW. HE IS SCARED TO DEBATE PRESIDENT ZUCKERMAN, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT HE SIMPLY IS NOT AS SMART , AND DOES NOT KNOW AS MUCH AS ZUCKERMAN . HE KNOWS THAT DEBATING PRESIDENT ZUCKERMAN WILL UNCOVER THE TRUTH, THAT ANDERSON DOES NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO DEBATE ZUCKERMAN OR RUN THE PRESIDENCY.
THIS IS THE REAL REASON THAT ROTH AND HOKE GET ON T-NET AND POST ALL OF THE GARBAGE AND LIES. THEY AND OTHERS ARE TRYING TO KEEP THE SPOTLIGHT OFF OF ANDERSON'S AND THE HWUS WEAKNESSES. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT JIM ANDERSON, TONY BLAIR, JAMES BROWN, LORETTA DEVASIER, DAN RAISOR, LARRY DESPAIN, AND BOB SHINE ARE NOT EVEN VIABLE CANDIDATES. THEY DO NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO DEBATE PRESIDENT ZUCKERMAN OR RUN THE LOCAL UNION.

FYI, THE SEVERANCE WAS VOTED IN BY THE MEMBERS, BUT NONE OF THE HWUS OR THEIR SUPPORTERS HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO INVESTIGATE THIS. I WILL NOT DO YOUR WORK FOR YOU.

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Posted December 06 2011 - 08:18 PM

Posted ImageTony B., on December 05 2011 - 08:10 PM, said:

Inthe, Fred asked to to debate not Jim. So if Fred wants the debate he must think he is behind. Debating is not the problem equal say is. As far as being intimidated, I said tried. A few drunk guys hitting their fist and kicking chairs acting like jacka$$ was no problem for us to get nominated. We are just pointing out that Fred can not win with trying to intimidation and cheating.

Posted ImageHourlyworkersdirtysecrets said:
By Tony's quote, proves that he was not intimidated at the nomination meeting. There were no grim reapers there. This is proof, that the main reason that Anderson said caused him to not debate, is a falsehood. Anderson used a false excuse to not debate.

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Posted December 06 2011 - 08:28 PM

Posted ImageTitan89, on December 05 2011 - 08:20 PM, said:

Tug thanks for the response!

I believe severance pay should be voted on by the members. A person can not even run for the E board without being harrassed and intimidated by the hall, let alone propose changes to their severance pay!!!

We hear alot now days about Corporate Greed; what about Union Greed?! Union dues pays our President around $240,000 a yr , 4 pensions, meal, car allowances and other perks. If our President ever leaves office he has the option to go back to his job. Not only that he will take a severance pay around $150,000. I believe, even the janitor gets severance pay! Look at a UPS BA. They make around $100,000. Depending on the BA they would take around $21,000- $30,000 in severance and go back to a job making over $60,000. Except PM, he would make more $ on both!

When doing hand-outs with BS. I heard him say about JB, he would have no problem giving him some sort of severance since he would not have a job to go back to. That is what the severance should be about! Not lining pockets!

Union Greed: I had a FT union member at Morgan tell me they make $30,000 - $35000 depending if they can get OT. They are working their butts off to make ends meat. Think about this, we are handing Fred around $150,000 if he were to leave office and he could go straight back into a great paying job. It takes that Morgan union worker at least 5 years of hard work to just equal Freds severance pay. What is meal allowances now? $100 a day, we will say. Take $100 x 20 days a month = $2000.00. Ups pt dues around $28 lets say. Take $28 and divide that with $2000.00 = 71.42. To pay 1 BA's meal allowance a month it takes 71.42 UPS pters due money a month. There is car allowances, gas allowances and other perks also!

Union Greed! It is time to put a stop of bleeding the members dry and trying to stop us from voting and participating in OUR UNION AFFAIRS! It would take about a DOLLAR a YEAR a member to do a mail-out. They can waste due money on the hall perks but they will not make it where every members is able to cast a vote. They have election on UPS busiest weekend and the Zuck supporters say it is NO BIG DEAL! UNION GREED!!!!


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Business agents only get a meal allowance when they are out of town. If this is not used, the agent does not pocket the money. When Tony Blair was a delegate, he was given approx. 100.00 a day, the same meal allowance given to agents while out of town, for his meal allowance. AND he attempted to have the union hall pay for his personal meal plan at his hotel. This was not a mistake, Tony Blair had been a delegate before, he knew that this was inappropriate. This was an attempt by Tony Blair to steal dues money. This can be proven by the accounting department at the union hall.

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Posted December 11 2011 - 06:08 AM

View PostHourlyWorkersDirtySecrets, on October 21 2011 - 02:02 PM, said:

This is just the beginning.
And surely, there's more to come.

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Posted December 11 2011 - 03:53 PM

Jim Anderson and the Hourly Workers Unite Slate has been inept and dishonest in this campaign. They had put Jesse Stewart on their slate website. Inept because they didn't check to see if he was eligible first. Dishonest because they denied the facts and then said he was off for personal reasons. James Brown IS NOT a lawyer and did not represent Zuckerman's son in the service. He did not attend the the schools he claims and has never passed the BAR exam. This is another misrepresentation. The HWUS has also claimed that the Grim Reapers were there to prevent them from getting nominated. Tony B post 3256 finally admits that there were no Grim Reapers, it is now a few drunk guys hitting their fists and kicking chairs. Kudos to Tony for finally getting closer to the truth.This Grim Reaper Story was put out as propaganda to get sympathy and support for their campaign. Dan Raisor was busted for trafficing drugs. Jim Anderson and the rest of the slate chose to sit on this information in the hopes it would not come out. When it did come out, the first thing they did was deny. See Dan Raisor post 3380. The second thing they did was make up a story that this was an old charge and therefore meant nothing. When it became known that this happened on 12-1-11, they finally had to reluctantly admit there was a problem. They have admitted to 1 charge, but there are actually 3 charges. Now they are trying to spin this. Now they are asking for support for a member in trouble and asking you to remember that he is innocent until proven guilty. This the sympathy game again. Problem is, that Dan admitted to the police, that he was selling drugs. The slate is telling everyone that if Dan is found guilty, Dan committed to stepping down. Dan Raisor did this. He then lied about this. Now the slate is asking people to believe that if he is found guilty , that he will, willingly step down. O.K. The other spin is that another member of HWUS has been telling people that he has received anonymous calls saying,"he is next". This sounds ominous, but is just another spin to get sympathy. It opens another questions. Is another member of HWUS a drug dealer too, or a user? Was the union hall going to be used as a center for dealing drugs? Meanwhile, Larry Despain has been busy defending his 3 month old Steward ship. He has gone to UPS management and reported on another hourly for passing a Steward petition around while on the clock. He does not want anyone challenging his position, so he has tried to get a Union brother fired. I suppose that this Larry's version of a fair and honest election?
Everything in this post is factual and can be backed up.

Jim Anderson and Tony Blair picked an admitted DRUG DEALER(Dan Raisor) to run on their yellow cartel slate.

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Posted December 11 2011 - 05:27 PM

Hey brothers , just as couple comments while driving home and pouting about my Bengals. While campaigning just now R.D tracked me down and said his phone is the only way he can get on tnet and he said Titan is 100% right about his situation. He asked how he could sign anything that says the agents said to drop it and Jim alone pushed it and he is soo thankful to him. R.D is really upset how the agents tried to take the credit when in fact the agents said to drop it, it was ALL Jim. Once again you are a liar Don Cummings. Next thought, are you'll really saying the severance was voted on by the membership because the membership voted for the eboard and the eboard voted on the severance? That is the stupidest rationalization I've ever head in my life. That would be like if Obama signed an executive order giving everyone in Congress a $5 milllion Christmas bonus then saying o its ok because the American people voted for it by voting for Obama. I'm sure the American people wouldn't go along with something that idiotic just like the membership of local 89 wouldn't vote for a severance for agents etc who have jobs to go back to. I have Jims word on that one that he'll get rid of that in his first month, quit insulting the member's intelligence, they didn't vote on that. Is it funded like everywhere else, or is it coming straight out of our general fund? Thats a legitimate question, I'm really asking for an answer. Last little thing, has Zuckerman been out campaigning or does he just send you'll? My main thing was I never saw him at UPS in his 12 yrs as president and he didn't even know when the 8 high seniority brothers were fired last yr over the hidden camera. Don't say he has soo many companies bla bla bla, he brought half the hall down to confront an hourly because an anonymous person said he said something about Freds son. There's not a lot going on at 3am, even if he thinks he's the front runner, what's it hurt to come talk to the membership who pays him soo well. That's my friendly advice for today.You really can't argue that Jims a more caring, down to earth person. I actually watched Jim spend a whole handout at a company helping a guy who was fired with no grievances on the table, no panel scheduled and no chance of voting in this election. Jim quit everything and had a conversation with this man giving him all the help and advice that he could. He used a vacation day and could of very easily brushed him off but hes just a genuinely great person and if anyone disputes that they are bold face liars. FN Bengals. Look Don I can copy and paste on your other forums too.

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Posted December 11 2011 - 07:18 PM

Jim Anderson and Tony Blair handpicked an admitted DRUG DEALER(Dan Raisor) to run on their yellow cartel slate.
People depend on the hall. If if you were fired, would you TRUST the hourly workers unite slate with your job?
Would you trust your job to the yellow cartel slate that is openly trying to get another union member FIRED?
Remember this, when you cast your vote.

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Posted December 11 2011 - 07:51 PM

View PostHourlyWorkersDirtySecrets, on December 11 2011 - 07:33 PM, said:

If Jim Anderson is such a caring person, that dreams of being the president of local 89, how come he has NEVER been to visit the IMI workers that are on strike. Not one time. Is it because they do not have the number of voters as Jim's cornhole buddies do?
You are a fn liar and once again your just spouting off bad information. I'm not even one of Jim's close friends and I've been on the phone with him a couple of times when he was with them. wanting me to meet him. I'm sure Jim can prove this so when I give you proof will you admit he's a great guy. He didn't advertise this, and didn't want them used as a campaign bullet but I'm personally glad you spouted it off as fact. I'm soo sick of you idiots typing anything at all with no basis, Jims the easiest guy in the world to defend, he's everything we need in a president, where you have to fight for a self serving unpersonable...fill in the blank, he's no Jim and you know this.

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Posted December 12 2011 - 08:32 AM

I know we have an alcoholic at the 89.
Wonder who that could be.
Can u say rehab!!!!!

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Posted December 12 2011 - 03:41 PM

Here is something to think about and form a opinion on. Over 8000 cards got passed out requesting a mail in ballet...2000 ballets got sent out. 6000 people who got a card and didn't send it in doesn't sound quite right. 1000 is possible, but 6000? Smells bad, very bad.


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Posted December 12 2011 - 06:48 PM

Jim Anderson would rather work in CHSP than be a Steward. He has lied about grievance settlements.
Loretta Devasier stepped down as a steward because of a UNANIMOUS petition to remove her.
James Brown has been terminated for sexual harassment and dishonesty.
Dan Raisor is in trouble with the law for trafficking drugs and is rolling on everyone at UPS in hopes of a plea bargain.
Larry Despain has tried to get a brother teamster fired for passing around a petition calling for a stewards election against him.
Tony Blair refused to be a steward because he is scared of UPS getting mad and firing him.
Bob Shine takes all his vacation at the beginning of the year and then vacations on FMLA time.
The hourly slate is trying o get Don Cummings

This group claims to care about the membership. Do their histories prove it? Would you trust this group with your next contract? Your job?

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Posted December 12 2011 - 09:22 PM

View Postdirtysecretsof89, on December 12 2011 - 05:31 PM, said:

Fred is a great you say. Is that why he used union dues to pay for PM DUI. I think it cost about 5000.00 of our money.
Also what about the restraining order the secretary had to take out on Fred. I think it was the same one he blamed for the jeffboat screw up. Before he could get rid of her she shacks up with johnny and she takes him for a town home that he put in her name. Who else passed her around. How about Bramble having an affair with PV so is that how you become a delegate. Sleep with an agent. Word is KE loves COKE a cola. Looks like he just got taken to the cleaners again. His ex talks a lot. What about the girl, the hall put in central states. She's not even a member but has medical bill paid in range of 400,000.00. What else do you have in the closets besides tubs of beer after union meetings. They turn the whole place into a bar with our dues money. This is where the few supporters go. They feel real good being asked to go upstairs. This is where buddy deals are made. It's time to sweep the dirt out.


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Posted December 13 2011 - 07:13 AM






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Posted Today, 03:47 AM

OK stupid I guess it is time to put up or shut the f*ck up. You are accusing them of stealing which if true would be illegal. However you know the severance has been in effect and voted on by the members for 50 years as part of the employment package. I won't give you all the reasons why it is there because you are too stupid to understand. So, here is the challenge. If you feel it is stealing and illegal call the Department of Labor at the Cincinnati office on Monday and report it. Then get back on here and tell us who you reported it to. If not, and you want to keep lying about it, just shut the f*ck up. You guys are a F*cking embarrassment to the Teamsters with all the lies you have told and the candidates you have chosen. Local 89 has no use for drug dealers and assholes who lie about their qualifications and being f*cking lawyers. Saturday night you will lose big and the members will always remember you fools as liars. See you all on Friday, that is except for Dan Raisor who will be in court getting arraigned on felony drug trafficking charges.
Now you are suggesting Vinnie is stealing money. Same challenge to you as*hole. Theft of union monies is a crime. Call the department of labor tomorrow morning and report it and let us know you did it. If not shut your lying ass up. You are an embarrassment to the Teamsters and remember this. If you falsely accuse someone of a crime you can be sued for defamation. Ask your attorney buddy James Brown that. Maybe that's not a good idea because he lied about being an attorney. Go ask a real attorney and don't think you can hide behind some stupid screen name. I hope Zuckerman and Vinnie sue your ass off. Have a nice day as*hole.
VOTE ZUCKERMAN / BOLTON

Did any of you as*holes call the Department of Labor today and report this or are you just full of sh-*t? My guess is you are full of sh-*t!


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Posted December 13 2011 - 02:46 PM

If Raisor contributed to Anderson's campaign, wouldn't that mean that Anderson's campaign was partially funded by drug money? Is this legal? If this happened, shouldn't it be reported to the labor department?

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Posted December 29 2011 - 05:07 PM

How much drug money did Raisor contribute to Anderson's campaign?