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[unionbustersandtrollsout]

Can we get a half of million signatures in two months?

Judging by Ohio's SB 5 defeat, I'd say HELL YES!!!

http://www.usw.org/m...isories?id=0441

[UPS Teamster]

I wish you all luck and speed, this rotten bum has to go!

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

Rock on UPS Teamster....

Let's throw him on his ass

Some would argue that electoral politics - the recall actions - will take away from occupy wall street.

i.e. Funnel the frustration into certain politician's hands

I think there's enough power to go around............and ITS GROWING

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

In Wisconsin we need about 9000 signatures a day in order to recall that Right-To-Work (for less) Koch-Cain addict, Walker!

We got over 50,000 signatures in less than 48 hours

The working class know how to do the work

Time to push for unionization of these oppressed and confused right-to-work-for-less states

If we don't, then the U.S.A will be up for sale and these foreign investors will be buying up our country from underneath us

All hands on deck

[scb]

-unionbuster-

Minor - albeit rather significant - correction. You ["we"] need "about 9000 signatures a day" until you reach half a million or so in order to have a recall ELECTION. The signatures themselves won't recall Walker; only the voters themselves in a general election can pull him from office.

'Course, Wisconsin isn't a "RTW" state to begin with. Indiana is the entity that currently appears to be headed toward that column....and recalling Walker (if, in fact, it happens) probably won't have much impact on the jurisdiction two borders southeast.

-scb-

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

Keep your scabbies out of Wisconsin

I've got loving family in Wisconsin - their working hands are on deck

Poor scabbies, so full of loathing

So lonely

One sick/diseased individual

Sorry that you haven't had a good one

[scb]

-buster-

Oh, mine's been alright. Obviously, it's been quite a bit better than yours. Sorry if your (note usage) big mouth got you into trouble. Maybe with a little more "experience", you'll learn to keep it shut until you have some idea of what you're (note usage again) talking about.

You're far from the first Teamster who's busted his butt trying to push the boulder of Persistent Ignorance up the slope of Economic Reality here on T-Net, and I seriously doubt that you'll be the last. There's a reason for the state of the union today....and individuals such as yourself need only to look in the mirror to discover what it is.

-scb-

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

oh, scabbies use more internety? Hmmm? Want some more internet cause you're so lonely?

Yes, yes -- let us all about your classes at oxford...you pay baseball with Babe Ruth? Wow.

Your rash bothering you today, scabbie? Schizphrenia not so bad, today? Less lonely when you on the internety?

Need Teamsters to listen and provide disability check?

Yes, yes, --- you're a poor poor thing, scabbies.

[local138]

scb, on November 27 2011 - 01:40 PM, said:

-buster-

Oh, mine's been alright. Obviously, it's been quite a bit better than yours. Sorry if your (note usage) big mouth got you into trouble. Maybe with a little more "experience", you'll learn to keep it shut until you have some idea of what you're (note usage again) talking about.

You're far from the first Teamster who's busted his butt trying to push the boulder of Persistent Ignorance up the slope of Economic Reality here on T-Net, and I seriously doubt that you'll be the last. There's a reason for the state of the union today....and individuals such as yourself need only to look in the mirror to discover what it is.

-scb-

The state of our Union today and granted it is bad can!t be laid at the feet of unions but goverment and the corruption that lies with in that goverment.

[scb]

-local138-

Without coming right out in disagreement, I'm curious as to just what specific ways the "goverment [sic] and the corruption that lies with in that goverment" that led to the state the Teamsters Union is in today you could enumerate.

Thanks in advance....

-scb-

[local138]

scb, on November 29 2011 - 07:02 AM, said:

-local138-

Without coming right out in disagreement, I'm curious as to just what specific ways the "goverment [sic] and the corruption that lies with in that goverment" that led to the state the Teamsters Union is in today you could enumerate.

Thanks in advance....

-scb-

I guess I would have to answer your question with a question why do think workers want Unions ? If the goverment protected workers from bad employers there would be no need for Unions ,but we both know that most goverment agencys that are suppose to protect workers do little or nothing and that is why Unions exist.

[scb]

-local138-

As far as I can tell, it doesn't appear that most workers want unions. With some 7% penetration of the work force in the private sector, and 10% or so in the public (which represents the "government" with the corruption problems, one would assume), it's pretty obvious that the vast majority of workers don't seem to see a need for a union at all. And many believe that the small percentage that do want to be associated with a union represent the least efficient, least cost-effective portion of the work force as well; i.e. - those that can't cut it on their own in a competitive environment. That, whether completely true or not, presents a rather difficult public relations problem, which could be put at the feet of the Union itself, and not as the product of "government" or "corruption".

As for your comment that "most goverment agencys [sic] that are suppose [sic] to protect workers do little or nothing", in what specific ways? Seems to me that those "government agencys" in question have massively tilted the playing field toward the side of employees. For example: workers are allowed to terminate the work relationship ("quit the job") at any time they choose, for whatever reason. Are employers allowed the same privilege? The list could go on and on.

Also, I guess I would have to ask just what is a "bad employer"? It seems to me that any and every employer can be simply "walked away from" by workers...and thus no longer exist as a "bad employer". Given that, what form of "protection" is needed? The fact is, ANY true "employer" today is, pretty much by definition, a "good" employer. Certainly he's miles and miles ahead in that department when compared with those who DON'T have employment to offer, and who, instead, are begging for employment from those who DO create and maintain the jobs!

But, of course, I asked for SPECIFIC ways in which "goverment [sic] and the corruption that lies with in that goverment" led to the state the TEAMSTERS union is in today. And, truthfully (referencing your questioning as to why workers want unions, when they obviously - for the most part - don't want them!), your answer doesn't seem to put blame on the government or corruption at all...but rather on the Union itself, for it's inability to be attractive to potential members. After all, if the government was NOT protecting employees (as you maintain), then workers would be SEEKING OUT the Union to protect their interests. But "the state" of the Union I was referring to (referencing the deplorable state the Teamsters have been brought down to) would indicate that either (1) workers are satisfied with the protections government provides, and/or (2) they don't see the Teamsters as having the ability to assist them.

So, again, I'd like to ask the same question...hoping that you could be more specific and/or direct this time, with something other than a rather vague generalization that actually seems to speak AGAINST your original premise. Thanks again....

-scb-

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

Alright, Wisconites already got enough signatures for the recall. No problem. We're gonna get double to keep the conversations with voters going and for PR purposes. They're not telling anybody because we don't want to think we've got this thing in the bag and start slacking.

Next step...getting the right candidate to oust that KOCH-Cain addict, ******* Scott Walker.

See ya *******.

Here is a contender for Wisconsin's next new governor. He was one of the Wisconsin 14:

http://legis.wiscons...ate&district=27

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

They are not Right-To-Work states

They are Work-at-Will states

RTW transitions to WAW if you don't watch out

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

More people signed the recall petition than voted for Walker!:


BIGGEST RECALL IN AMERICAN HISTORY: More Than One Million Signatures Submitted to Recall Scott Walker

United Wisconsin today announced that more than one million Wisconsinites have signed a petition to recall Scott Walker, representing the most-participated-in major recall effort in American history, and a number so significant that it is beyond any legal challenge. Signatures were submitted to the Government Accountability Board this afternoon.

The signatures represent the largest recall effort in the history of the United States and 185 percent of the signatures needed to trigger a recall of Walker.

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

ESTIMATES ARE NOW AT 1.9 MILLION PEOPLE IN WISCONSIN SIGNED THE RECALL EFFORT! CONFIRMED!!

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

recall rally - this is the called the power of the people and the power of the won't stop:

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

Here are the count totals. Several people will go down with Walker. Notice that all got over 100% and therefore will be recalled. Celebrate union brothers and sisters!

[Farley]

Today I sent the WisDems a donation.....better to help dems that have displayed a spine than right wing dems like Old Bomba and Reid