Hoffa has never had the guts to show up in pesron and debate any challegner in any past electoin. He had Chuck Mack fill in for him before and now that Mack is gone who will he pick to be his mouthpeice? If he is the best candiadate for the job then why can't he speak for himself?
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Posted July 15 2011 - 03:19 PM
Why would anyone waste their time debating the two gutless wonders who are running. Don't forget they both had a whole week to get up, in front of their peers, and debate all of the policies they are going to change, improve, invent, lie about, misinform, etc. Nothing at all from either of them. Why, because they knew they would get their ass handed to them by people who where there and know the truth. I know I know, 1500 puppets according to those who have no support. I would guess that if there is a debate, it will be Hall or Aloise who will debate. Hoffa won't waste the time...
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Posted July 15 2011 - 04:01 PM
BeReal, on July 15 2011 - 03:19 PM, said:
Why would anyone waste their time debating the two gutless wonders who are running. Don't forget they both had a whole week to get up, in front of their peers, and debate all of the policies they are going to change, improve, invent, lie about, misinform, etc. Nothing at all from either of them. Why, because they knew they would get their ass handed to them by people who where there and know the truth. I know I know, 1500 puppets according to those who have no support. I would guess that if there is a debate, it will be Hall or Aloise who will debate. Hoffa won't waste the time...
Agreed. Brother Jim Hoffa is THEE General President of THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF TEAMSTERS. We are a 1.4 million Member strong trade union, which represents everything from accountants to zookeepers...
I'm sure he has better and bigger things to do... Plus, why would he WANT TO debate to fly by night jagoffs, who don't have a snowballs chance in Hell? To valididate their idiocy, I mean candidacy? Give me a friggin' break!
The incomparable Brother Chuck Mack ate Leaddumd's ass for breakfast, and had a bowel movement which ejected a TDU turd somewhere around lunchtime. Brother Rome will F--K BOTH THOSE LAMES UP in a heartbeat, with very little effort whatsoever...
C'mon man, let's be real here...
I see you are back Barking Dipshit. How's things in Tejas?
As they say in Nuevo Mexico: Viva Los Teamters, Viva Los Hoffanistas!!
I fully understand why YOU have an ax to grind, Dog. GET OVER IT!!!!!
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Posted July 15 2011 - 05:55 PM
Barking Dog, on July 15 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:
Hoffa has never had the guts to show up in pesron and debate any challegner in any past electoin. He had Chuck Mack fill in for him before and now that Mack is gone who will he pick to be his mouthpeice? If he is the best candiadate for the job then why can't he speak for himself?
Because he don't have the answers. If he didn't have a piece of paper in front of him, he wouldn't be able to make a speech.
He sure isn't his father.
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Posted July 16 2011 - 03:06 AM
Camero, You really have no idea about any of this. When you are the president you never lend credibility to your opponents, especially when they demand it. Its just not very presidential to do so. Even if he did decide to debate the "know nothing" Sandy Pope, he could still bring his "piece of paper", couldn't he?
Its Sandy who has no answers. She cant answer for her local, she will never answer for the international.
Its Sandy who has no answers. She cant answer for her local, she will never answer for the international.
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11:58pm, on July 16 2011 - 03:06 AM, said:
Camero, You really have no idea about any of this. When you are the president you never lend credibility to your opponents, especially when they demand it. Its just not very presidential to do so. Even if he did decide to debate the "know nothing" Sandy Pope, he could still bring his "piece of paper", couldn't he?
Its Sandy who has no answers. She cant answer for her local, she will never answer for the international.
Its Sandy who has no answers. She cant answer for her local, she will never answer for the international.
I'm just saying, I've been around Pres. Hoffa, and there are times I feel like he don't know what's going on! Now I do know Pres. Hoffa has made the statment (That's Why I hired these people to do the work) but, as President he should make them (meaning Todd, Christy, Leo, and Eddie Boy) keep him imformed and let him (Hoffa) make the call. Hoffa does sit in the Chair....
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Posted July 16 2011 - 07:40 AM
I'm just saying... Jim Hoffa is aware of every issue regarding American workers, the global labor movement and is astute to everything going on within this union.
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11:58pm, on July 16 2011 - 07:40 AM, said:
I'm just saying... Jim Hoffa is aware of every issue regarding American workers, the global labor movement and is astute to everything going on within this union.
That’s Hoffa’s problem. He is aware of problems but does nothing. He knows what is going on in the union like you say, like what was going on in Chicago with corruption but he ignored it.
He knows there are a lot of Teamsters who want answers about pensions, job security, givebacks and so on but he won’t participate in the one debate that is required by the election officer.
Hoffa could learn from Sandy about having some guts and standing up for what you believe in.
Do you think Hoffa’s father would have refused to debate because non-Teamster consultants like Rich Leboove and Greg Tarpinian told him not to? Would his father have non-Teamster dipshits like Todd Thompson calling the shots for his campaign?
Our union can do better than that.
VOTE SANDY POPE!!!
Sandy Pope for Teamsters General President in 2011! A REAL Change for the next 100 years!
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Posted July 16 2011 - 10:54 AM
Like James R. Hoffa there is no debate. The only thing Jim Hoffa could learn from Sandy Poop is how to collect ballots.
All the answers to members concerns have been given to the members and their duly elected leaders. If the leader of your local is not giving you the correct information then you either refuse to accept the truth or they are probably tdu.
All the answers to members concerns have been given to the members and their duly elected leaders. If the leader of your local is not giving you the correct information then you either refuse to accept the truth or they are probably tdu.
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11:58pm, on July 16 2011 - 10:54 AM, said:
Like James R. Hoffa there is no debate. The only thing Jim Hoffa could learn from Sandy Poop is how to collect ballots.
All the answers to members concerns have been given to the members and their duly elected leaders. If the leader of your local is not giving you the correct information then you either refuse to accept the truth or they are probably tdu.
All the answers to members concerns have been given to the members and their duly elected leaders. If the leader of your local is not giving you the correct information then you either refuse to accept the truth or they are probably tdu.
I haven't heard an answer about why the 22.3 jobs are not being accounted for. David Thornsberry tried to ask about it at the convention but couldn't get an answer. Let me try:
"WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THERE WAS AN AUDIT OF HOW MANY 22.3 JOBS TEAMSTERS ARE CURRENTLY WORKING AT UPS?"
My principal officer says Ken Hall won't give him an answer when he asks that question.
Sandy Pope for Teamsters General President in 2011! A REAL Change for the next 100 years!
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Posted July 16 2011 - 04:00 PM
My answer to you is.... I dont know. I'm a freight guy, not a UPS'r. Who is your principal officer?
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Posted July 16 2011 - 04:39 PM
Sandy in'16, on July 16 2011 - 10:19 AM, said:
That’s Hoffa’s problem. He is aware of problems but does nothing. He knows what is going on in the union like you say, like what was going on in Chicago with corruption but he ignored it.
He knows there are a lot of Teamsters who want answers about pensions, job security, givebacks and so on but he won’t participate in the one debate that is required by the election officer.
Hoffa could learn from Sandy about having some guts and standing up for what you believe in.
Do you think Hoffa’s father would have refused to debate because non-Teamster consultants like Rich Leboove and Greg Tarpinian told him not to? Would his father have non-Teamster dipshits like Todd Thompson calling the shots for his campaign?
Our union can do better than that.
VOTE SANDY POPE!!!
He knows there are a lot of Teamsters who want answers about pensions, job security, givebacks and so on but he won’t participate in the one debate that is required by the election officer.
Hoffa could learn from Sandy about having some guts and standing up for what you believe in.
Do you think Hoffa’s father would have refused to debate because non-Teamster consultants like Rich Leboove and Greg Tarpinian told him not to? Would his father have non-Teamster dipshits like Todd Thompson calling the shots for his campaign?
Our union can do better than that.
VOTE SANDY POPE!!!
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Barking Dog, on July 15 2011 - 12:22 PM, said:
Hoffa has never had the guts to show up in pesron and debate any challegner in any past electoin. He had Chuck Mack fill in for him before and now that Mack is gone who will he pick to be his mouthpeice? If he is the best candiadate for the job then why can't he speak for himself?
LOL - these people are too funny! This is the SOLIDARITY everyone is looking for!
I won't pretend to know much about Hoffa's opposition, although it would tickle me to see POPE walk away with HOFFA's favorite chair!
I don't expect to see Hoffa debating anyone, like you said DOG. But, in the event he decides to get a little cocky, the truck drivers at the PORT and I would love to have a few words with Hoffa.
I don't really suspect he would be so stupid to engage in an open forum with 3,000 very pissed off people.
Chuck Mack should have never chosen himself over the Oakland Port Truckers! and his replacement, well lets just say
Doug Bloch hasn't made Hoffa nor Aloise none too popular with these West Coast professionals.
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Posted July 17 2011 - 10:56 AM
22.3 jobs???? are you joking...remember the last time the toodleoo was in charge??? Carey and the toodleoo completely ignored the 22.3 jobs and the Locals went wild....it took a change in Leadership when the crooked incompetent toodleoo were ousted to get any 22.3 jobs.....and NOW someone is suggesting a return to the dark old days when Teamster Destyruction Units (the toodleoo) were in charge???? especially with a know nothing like "the Pope"
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Look everybody it's Sherri Henry!
If she's supporting Sandy Pope then I know she really has no chance of winning!
There's only one real choice to lead the TEAMSTERS and that's HOFFA/HALL!
If she's supporting Sandy Pope then I know she really has no chance of winning!
There's only one real choice to lead the TEAMSTERS and that's HOFFA/HALL!
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Posted July 17 2011 - 01:00 PM
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Posted July 17 2011 - 01:15 PM
I'm a stealth Hoffa supporter. I haven't announced my support before now because I didn't want to appear too shallow or misinformed. The Hoffa name is and has been something for the Teamsters Union to be proud of. After all, how many labor leaders have demonstrated an ability to successfully propagandize their constituents? Yes, I support Hoffa. Everything is in the name! History and record will only confuse the membership! Vote for Hoffa and get more of the same!
Ps. Can anyone tell me where to get a transcript or recording of grievance panel hearings?
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Ps. Can anyone tell me where to get a transcript or recording of grievance panel hearings?
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Posted July 17 2011 - 01:16 PM
Sherry as a bus driver you knew nothing about bus drivers and you know far less about port drivers.
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Posted July 17 2011 - 01:19 PM
Sherman, if only you were a teamster even when you were supposed to be a Teamster.
