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[Lando]

Jim claimed to have all this juice in the west. Jim claimed everyone wants him back. Jim claimed he had power and influence.

Nope! He failed to produce as always! Just a shell, a blow hard! Full of himself! That's why him and Gegare are good for one another.

You couldn't help Gegare get enough delegates in the west for a nomination. You never had it and this proves it. You sat around acting like a king and throwing your weight around when you were really a sham. You must have lost your mind at some point. Did you have a stroke and it gave you brain damage?

Five years ago Leedham couldn't get the support in the west and now you are in his class, way to go bro!! TDU paved the way for you and Gegare.

Convention 2016 if your still alive will be this "Vote for the #########/Pope/Gegare/Leedham lost my mind slate"

You say you got fucked, you say you will be back, you say Gegare has balls and integrity.

I say you're FULL OF SHIT!!!!!! And the members obviously agree with me. Gegare for GP what a joke! ######### with influence and even bigger joke!!

[TDU SUX]

The perverted limp dick bastard has no influence in the west. He is nothing but a jester in gegares court of retards.

Fg would have served himself better in the west if jimmy the weasel would have stayed retarded, I mean retired.

But what would you expect from a dumb ass like Fred or maybe he was drunk when he brought the pervert on board. VOTE HOFFA!!!!!

[sadjjjjer]

I am sure that what bothers the pervert the most is that he has no way to influence or bribe any of the sleazy teamster bimbos to suck his little dick anymore. Too bad jimmy!

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sadjjjjer, on July 09 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

I am sure that what bothers the pervert the most is that he has no way to influence or bribe any of the sleazy teamster bimbos to suck his little dick anymore. Too bad jimmy!

Lets forget about that piece of garbage ######### and get down to the the countdown. Because after all it was all you haters that talked your smack that neither Sandy or Gegare would get the delegates. A lot of you Hoffa lovers claimed Sandy had about 45 and Gegare less then her and that combined they would fall short. lol

[PostHoffa2011]

PostHoffa2011, on July 09 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:

Lets forget about that piece of garbage ######### and get down to the the countdown. Because after all it was all you haters that talked your smack that neither Sandy or Gegare would get the delegates. A lot of you Hoffa lovers claimed Sandy had about 45 and Gegare less then her and that combined they would fall short. lol

Where are all you trashy Hoffa thugs now? Are you Hoffa old guard pieces of amphibian white trash Republican shit aware that Gegare is gonna take at least 20% of the vote? I'm beginning to believe its a battle between Gegare and Sandy. Gegare didn't have the signatures to get on the magazine but he had more delegates then you white trash thugs thought!

Tim Sylvester will be laughing at all the Hoffa thugs booing him when he was nominating Sandy. All you assholes are in for a nightmare. This is gonna be the greatest Teamster year in history.

UPS get ready, because a chick with more balls then Hoffa Jr. will strike you if you dare try to fuck with the UPS workers. lol. The 1991 Ron Carey victory revisited. What percentage of UPSers are for concessions, Ken Hall?

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ph2011, You're delusional but have fun while it lasts. BTW, you do realize that there are over 1 million teamsters that have nothing to do with ups, right?

Tell Tim Sylvester that Ron Carey would never have worn shorts to the teamster convention.

[IBBadDude]

PostHoffa2011, on July 09 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:

Lets forget about that piece of garbage ######### and get down to the the countdown. Because after all it was all you haters that talked your smack that neither Sandy or Gegare would get the delegates. A lot of you Hoffa lovers claimed Sandy had about 45 and Gegare less then her and that combined they would fall short. lol

I never said they wouldnt get the delegates, some of us said they would including me. I always said they didn't have as much as you guys claimed. More than 80% of the ELECTED DELEGATES support Hoffa and the others split whats left, pathetic.

That means Gegare and Pope are hoping for a low voter turnout, hope they are complacent and apathetic. Sad, very sad they are, hypocrites with no plan and misinformation. Campaigns based on negativity, no recognition for any success and tearing our union apart. I am sick of do nothings wanting everything and both of them are in that class.

No organizing success for either, no DRIVE success for either, no training program, no mobilization, no plan, NONE!!! And they want to be GP?

For those of us that work our ass of and love our union we will not let them win. Hoffas slate has a proven successful track record.

[IBBadDude]

PostHoffa2011, on July 10 2011 - 01:56 AM, said:

Where are all you trashy Hoffa thugs now? Are you Hoffa old guard pieces of amphibian white trash Republican shit aware that Gegare is gonna take at least 20% of the vote? I'm beginning to believe its a battle between Gegare and Sandy. Gegare didn't have the signatures to get on the magazine but he had more delegates then you white trash thugs thought!

Tim Sylvester will be laughing at all the Hoffa thugs booing him when he was nominating Sandy. All you assholes are in for a nightmare. This is gonna be the greatest Teamster year in history.

UPS get ready, because a chick with more balls then Hoffa Jr. will strike you if you dare try to fuck with the UPS workers. lol. The 1991 Ron Carey victory revisited. What percentage of UPSers are for concessions, Ken Hall?

I am right here! Where were your candidates when I was calling them out during the convention? They wouldn't debate, they wouldn't say shit, they walked away because they have no plan, no answer. They only spread their misinformation when they don't have anyone holding them accountable. They ran, they hid, they ducked out the back door. I don't want that weak ass shit running my union.

News flash! The UPSers overwhelmingly supported the last contract knowingly pulling out of the Central States because a superior plan was on the table. Ken Hall as GST, brilliant Mr. Hoffa!

[FatBoy]

IBBadDude, on July 10 2011 - 09:59 AM, said:

I never said they wouldnt get the delegates, some of us said they would including me. I always said they didn't have as much as you guys claimed. More than 80% of the ELECTED DELEGATES support Hoffa and the others split whats left, pathetic.

That means Gegare and Pope are hoping for a low voter turnout, hope they are complacent and apathetic. Sad, very sad they are, hypocrites with no plan and misinformation. Campaigns based on negativity, no recognition for any success and tearing our union apart. I am sick of do nothings wanting everything and both of them are in that class.

No organizing success for either, no DRIVE success for either, no training program, no mobilization, no plan, NONE!!! And they want to be GP?

For those of us that work our ass of and love our union we will not let them win. Hoffas slate has a proven successful track record.

Please recite some of Hoffa's victories over the last 13 years. I would love to know what they are. I am looking for a reason to support him again, but so far I can't find any solid reasons to do so.

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Loosing 200,000 members is a victory for Hoffa and caving in on UPS and Freight. But ABF told him to shove his sweetheart deal with the company.

[IBBadDude]

FatBoy, on July 10 2011 - 11:48 AM, said:

Please recite some of Hoffa's victories over the last 13 years. I would love to know what they are. I am looking for a reason to support him again, but so far I can't find any solid reasons to do so.

Let's start here, nice and simple.....

Hoffa campaigned in 1998 on a few points

Bring our union back together
Rebuild our treasury
Create a strike fund
Prioritize organizing
Prioritize DRIVE
Mobilize our members politically and challenge political leaders on national and international issues

Bring our union back together- reached out to the opposition and included them in decision making as well as the GEB
Rebuild our treasury- took our assets from $6 million to $126 million
Create a strike fund- built a strike fund with $96 million in it today
Prioritize organizing- 140,000 members organized in the last 5 years alone. The most under any GP since his father.
Prioritize DRIVE-challenged locals and raised more DRIVE money than anyone since his father. During the most anti union times since the 30s
Mobilized our members politically/Politics- has challenged every anti labor bill in the national media and on the floor of congress leading the labor movement on issues

There are plenty of things I don't like over the last 13 years as each of these points has plenty of backup and plenty of controversy with it. The other candidates have no sucsess in any of these areas NONE

DRIVE- Pope- two people on DRIVE in her local. Gegare- local and JC one of the lowest in the country
Organizing- Pope- none. Gegare, very little
$$$$- Popes local losing money($3 million)
Politics/action- Gegare in Florida and California when Wisconson burned down- Pope??????? Lost in space unless there's a camera
Training and Development- Gegare- none Pope- none

All of this done in the greatest recession since the 30s, transportation getting killed in our country with fuel prices, Derbyshire on on top of deregulation, with free trade, corporate welfare all
time high,and an anti union media.

He's got my vote for good reason

[IBBadDude]

PostHoffa2011, on July 10 2011 - 01:14 PM, said:

Loosing 200,000 members is a victory for Hoffa and caving in on UPS and Freight. But ABF told him to shove his sweetheart deal with the company.

You are so misinformed, where do I start?

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You can start by stopping the lies and giving up on Popes fraud campaign? Dude, where's her slate?

[FatBoy]

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IBBadDude, on July 10 2011 - 02:51 PM, said:

Let's start here, nice and simple.....

Hoffa campaigned in 1998 on a few points

Bring our union back together
Rebuild our treasury
Create a strike fund
Prioritize organizing
Prioritize DRIVE
Mobilize our members politically and challenge political leaders on national and international issues

Bring our union back together- reached out to the opposition and included them in decision making as well as the GEB
Rebuild our treasury- took our assets from $6 million to $126 million
Create a strike fund- built a strike fund with $96 million in it today
Prioritize organizing- 140,000 members organized in the last 5 years alone. The most under any GP since his father.
Prioritize DRIVE-challenged locals and raised more DRIVE money than anyone since his father. During the most anti union times since the 30s
Mobilized our members politically/Politics- has challenged every anti labor bill in the national media and on the floor of congress leading the labor movement on issues

There are plenty of things I don't like over the last 13 years as each of these points has plenty of backup and plenty of controversy with it. The other candidates have no sucsess in any of these areas NONE

DRIVE- Pope- two people on DRIVE in her local. Gegare- local and JC one of the lowest in the country
Organizing- Pope- none. Gegare, very little
$$$$- Popes local losing money($3 million)
Politics/action- Gegare in Florida and California when Wisconson burned down- Pope??????? Lost in space unless there's a camera
Training and Development- Gegare- none Pope- none

All of this done in the greatest recession since the 30s, transportation getting killed in our country with fuel prices, Derbyshire on on top of deregulation, with free trade, corporate welfare all
time high,and an anti union media.

He's got my vote for good reason

Bring our union back together
Rebuild our treasury
Create a strike fund
Prioritize organizing
Prioritize DRIVE
Mobilize our members politically and challenge political leaders on national and international issues

Bring our union back together- reached out to the opposition and included them in decision making as well as the GEB
Rebuild our treasury- took our assets from $6 million to $126 million
Create a strike fund- built a strike fund with $96 million in it today
Prioritize organizing- 140,000 members organized in the last 5 years alone. The most under any GP since his father.
Prioritize DRIVE-challenged locals and raised more DRIVE money than anyone since his father. During the most anti union times since the 30s
Mobilized our members politically/Politics- has challenged every anti labor bill in the national media and on the floor of congress leading the labor movement on issues

Reality: Our Union is as fractured now as it was in 1996
Reality: What good does a rebuilt treasury do if it is accomplished on the backs on the members via a dues increase, and very little spent for their benefit. Meanwhile, goofballs like Paul Kenny making 200 grand a year. And you KNOW there are lots more like him out there.
Reality: 140,000 organized, or accomplished via mergers with other Unions. Not a lot of organizing occuring in So Cal outside of your Local.
Drive: What the heck has DRIVE ever done for us? In 2008 we had the perfect situation for Labor to get back in the saddle politically, and Obama did nothing, and opportunity was lost in 2010. And again, DRIVE is built on the backs of our members wages.

Lastly, you know and I know that there is no love between your boss and Hoffa. I frankly think Cammack would be a much more effective GP, he has proven his ability to mobilize over and over.

[IBBadDude]

Was a waist of time trying to explain and won't do that with you again. No need to break all this down in an attempt to prove my point. Cammack is on Hoffas team just as I am on Cammacks.

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IBBadDude, on July 10 2011 - 11:28 PM, said:

Was a waist of time trying to explain and won't do that with you again. No need to break all this down in an attempt to prove my point. Cammack is on Hoffas team just as I am on Cammacks.

Cammack the ex UPS manager and ex TDUer? Are you talking about the same Cammack?

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But Dude, Where is Sandy's slate? You mean to tell us that Sandy couldn't find 1 person willing to run with her? Why? Is it because no one leader in the IBT finds Sandy credible enough? Couldn't Sandy find some rank and file members willing to run with her instead? Or maybe its just that Sandy has no problem with the leaders and vice president that Jim Hoffa has chosen to govern this union now and over the past decade and Sandy has an ego problem that leads her to believe that her quest for a new job is more important the the needs of this membership. How sad is that???

ph2011, Sandy is a fraud and I bet that you are one of the many non-teamsters that were in her Las Vegas entourage!

[FatBoy]

IBBadDude, on July 10 2011 - 11:28 PM, said:

Was a waist of time trying to explain and won't do that with you again. No need to break all this down in an attempt to prove my point. Cammack is on Hoffas team just as I am on Cammacks.

Oh I see, a waste of time because I didn't just say "ok messiah,I understand now". Is that how you organize too? Someone questions you and you get tweeked? That is the problem with our Union today, too many people blindly following, "just because". Well guess what, those days are over. Dues paying members have a right to demand accountability from their representatives.

[11:58pm]

Tweaked? How about just not wanting to repeat themselves to a meathead that couldn't absorb the knowledge the first time???

[IBBadDude]

FatBoy, on July 11 2011 - 07:19 AM, said:

Oh I see, a waste of time because I didn't just say "ok messiah,I understand now". Is that how you organize too? Someone questions you and you get tweeked? That is the problem with our Union today, too many people blindly following, "just because". Well guess what, those days are over. Dues paying members have a right to demand accountability from their representatives.

To the contrary, you are hating just to hate. You're not open to discussion, you are looking only to support YOUR argument. Unless you are willing to accept some of my points and are willing to have an open mind with discussion and resolution it's moote to argue.

And yes that's how I organize very successfully I might add. When an anti union person is only looking to support their argument you show their ignorance and their inability to accept any of the facts then they lose credibility with their coworkers. you didn't question me looking for input to find resolution, you questioned me looking to go round and round never finding compromise.

The problem with our union is people like you. Tearing it down, never giving anyone any credit for success, never appreciating the great collective bargaining process and sharing it with others so we can grow and prosper. You are bitter, sad. I love my union even with it's faults. It helps millions of workers everyday. I conceded in my points earlier that their was much to debate and there was controversy as well as admitting I didn't agree with some things but you missed that. That is productive discussion.

Our members have a much better life than non union workers and I will support those that help build it. The other candidates have done nothing, when I pointed out success for the Hoffa slate you didn't bring points of the oppositions success. You tore down what was accomplished. The proplem is that type of thinking and refusing to be open to things you might not know.

By the way, I didn't get tweaked and I have always challenged, trained and developed our dues paying members to demand accountability from their leadership, ALWAYS!!

Maybe you should open your mind a little and engage in helping the members VS misinforming them.