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[scb]

My Goodness! Dennis Kucinich being interviewed on a Russian television network. Not much better "credibility" than that, I'll tell ya'! [grin!]

-scb- (who's beginning to think that the circus HASN'T left town!)

[HAZ]

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My Goodness! Dennis Kucinich being interviewed on a Russian television network. Not much better "credibility" than that, I'll tell ya'! [grin!]

-scb- (who's beginning to think that the circus HASN'T left town!)

And so, sociopathic corporate bums, adds Russians to his hate list, along with black people, and of course, Teamsters!

[Farley]

much better than a "interview???" of FAUX Noise...it is sad when the only credible sources of news in America are foreign....that is what happens when corporate money controls the message. Al Jazeera has more credibility in their little toe than in all of FAUX. IN fact the only one on FAUX that has an ounce of credibility is Shep Smith

[scb]

Farley, on March 12 2011 - 12:15 PM, said:

much better than a "interview???" of FAUX Noise...it is sad when the only credible sources of news in America are foreign....that is what happens when corporate money controls the message. Al Jazeera has more credibility in their little toe than in all of FAUX. IN fact the only one on FAUX that has an ounce of credibility is Shep Smith

-Farley-

No doubt your assessment is as accurate as usual. [smile]

-scb-

[Farley]

what happens to a working stiff when they listen to hardly "conservative" radio...the propaganda can ruin your life

[reentrystudent]

First I disclaim that I am not a union member and a first time responder(blogger). I am a re-entry older student attempting to understand the subject matter espoused by Glenn Beck. I was employed by a public utility in California about 20 years ago and was aware that the union agreement with the company resulted in abusive conditions in overtime rates where an individual with a base salary of $50,000 a year could earn a total of $120,000 a year. This cost simply was passed on to the consumer and eventually the company sold the utility along with the union relationship. Today, my spouse works for a school district and recently explained to me that the classified employees union sent members to technical training to improve their skills that ultimately benefited the students' learning environment. My questions are why do I hear about the negative issues of unions from Glenn Beck and not from others about the benefits that a union can do similar to my spouse's school district? When our country is in an economic down turn and union dues do not change does it make sense to invest in the organization that keeps it alive? Am I incorrect to say that union dues have not been reduced in these difficult economic times? Again, I am posting this question to better understand the world around me. Thank you for any responses.

[stark]

Many a UPS manager (and their associates) can thank the Union for his/her benefits and pay. Or, you can ask the folks over at Delta Air Lines just how many rasies they got after Eastern went down.

[scb]

stark, on September 21 2011 - 05:09 AM, said:

Many a UPS manager (and their associates) can thank the Union for his/her benefits and pay. Or, you can ask the folks over at Delta Air Lines just how many rasies they got after Eastern went down.

-stark-

Considering that, until very recent times, UPS was entirely owned by its present and past management, and that every dollar that was spent on "the Union" came directly from their pockets in terms of lost capital gains and dividend distributions, I'm not exactly sure how you arrived at your conclusion. Simple fact is that the union involvement COST UPS managers.

As for Eastern/Delta, wouldn't it be better to ask those union members who once had jobs at Eastern down just how many "rasies" THEY got after they brought the company down? Delta employees, of course, exist to this day. What about "Eastern" (union) employees? And I guess we could discuss all the "union" trucking companies of a few decades ago that are still "thriving" today, couldn't we? [smile]. The point being, of course, is that if you insist on claiming that unions have improved the conditions of those who are NOT union, but still working, then in fairness you should also take into account the vast number of those who have LOST their employment due to union influence....which, one would think, is a topic someone such as yourself would have some familiarity with.

-scb-

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

lost capital gains and dividend distributions.........

This is ghost money. It the 'money grows on trees' mentality.

"All capital is the fruit of labor. Capital cannot exist unless labor exists first" - Abe.

But Glenn Beck is a has-been --- just like scab.

No, point in feeding this beast.

This thread should die, just like the Beckster's career.

Thanks, scab, for flooding the mental health clinics by purporting schizophenia on the airwaves when the Beckster inflicted mass insanity into the public. good for nothing.

[scb]

unionbustersandtrollsout, on September 21 2011 - 08:16 AM, said:

lost capital gains and dividend distributions.........

This is ghost money. It the 'money grows on trees' mentality.

"All capital is the fruit of labor. Capital cannot exist unless labor exists first" - Abe.

But Glenn Beck is a has-been --- just like scab.

No, point in feeding this beast.

This thread should die, just like the Beckster's career.

Thanks, scab, for flooding the mental health clinics by purporting schizophenia on the airwaves when the Beckster inflicted mass insanity into the public. good for nothing.

Yes, capital *IS* the "fruit of labor"....more specifically, the labor OF THE CAPITALISTS! It's not the fruit of those they hire, or those that come after them, but rather their own fruit, to be gathered in as they - "they" being the one's who put forth the labor to begin with - see fit.

Hard concept for those who haven't had the foresight, or the ambition, or the ability to conserve their labor and transform it into capital to understand, I'm sure. For them, the fact that others HAVE converted their labor into capital is a reason for envy...and somehow a justification to confiscate that capital.

In truth, capital can't exist unless" labor" exists first. But, again, that's the capitalist's labor, and their capital doesn't equate, nor is it dependent upon on, current labor.

Can today's "labor" convert itself into tomorrows "capital"? Sure, if it's willing to "bank" it's labor to affect the conversion. If, however, all "labor" can do is demand the fruits of OTHERS actual labor, then probably not...nor should they.

-scb-

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Farley, on March 13 2011 - 11:31 AM, said:

what happens to a working stiff when they listen to hardly "conservative" radio...the propaganda can ruin your life

Beck should think before he opens his mouth his own mother was a union member .

[unionbustersandtrollsout]

remember when the beckster was going off the air? His last broadcast on fox? Even my 5th grader was like, 'he's not even saying anything'. Yep, son, hot air.

The Beckster was all, "I am sooooo popular. You guys will never take me down. I'm getting my own network."

Guess what? You have to PAY $100.00 a year to listen to his ****.

way to show us, Glenn!

Ha, ha, hahahahahah

hey, boxsmasher, is Glenn Beck burning a hole in your pocket like he's burned one in your brain?!? Hahahahaha

[stark]

scb......you are far behind the "capitalist" times of today. The captains of finance do not labor (nor hire laborers), they run the National and Global financial markets from their lap tops.

Mighty UPS will not be brought down by the cost of labor, it will be brought down when there is no more money in the hands of the vast spending public that will only need a grocery store.

[xg21]

Uh Oh: Glenn Beck's Mentor Sympathizes With OccupyWallStreet



This has got to hurt.

The New York Times published a profile of Jon Huntsman, Sr. this weekend. Huntsman is the billionaire chemical magnate best known for manufacturing fast-food containers. He is also the father of GOP presidential hopeful, Jon Huntsman, Jr. He is also Glenn Beck's role model.


Glenn Beck featured Huntsman on his Fox News program several times and awarded him the Badge of Merit for charity at the "Restoring Honor" rally. Beck spoke effusively of his admiration for Huntsman.


"He is the only man I have ever met that I believe has the character of George Washington. Jon Huntsman, Sr. is a good friend and mentor of mine."
[And...] "...a man I look up to and try to model myself after."


I have to wonder how Beck is going to take it when someone reads him the Times' profile and Beck learns this about his mentor:
He sympathizes with the Wall Street protesters. "The political system, he agreed, is broken. Ethics have foundered." "All men and women need a roof over their heads, and need to be fed and have proper health care. I don't know that I believed that, or even understood that, in the early days."


http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP