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#1 dockman

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Posted August 16 2010 - 08:47 PM

well, despite spending money like water ( sound familiar) and nationalizing as much as he can, hugo chavez's socialism is destroying his country....guess there will be some leftwingers here will say chavez is a corporatist or a goper to cover up the failures of socialism
( sound familiar )
here's a good read
http://www.humaneven...le.php?id=38456

take heed socialism doesn't work
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Posted August 17 2010 - 08:55 AM

Thanks for the reminder! I want to join Hugo on twitter. :cool:
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Posted August 17 2010 - 12:31 PM

docky???? Newt Gingrich???? are you shitting me? The same Newt that compared a Mosque to the Nazis? The same Newt that condemned Clinton for a blowsie while he was doing the same? docky. your sources are dishonest and laughable.

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Posted August 17 2010 - 02:19 PM

View PostFarley, on August 17 2010 - 12:31 PM, said:

docky???? Newt Gingrich???? are you shitting me? The same Newt that compared a Mosque to the Nazis? The same Newt that condemned Clinton for a blowsie while he was doing the same? docky. your sources are dishonest and laughable.
:cool: what's laughable farley is you don't read what's posted ...go back and read the article OR get your sister to read it for you and show me where newt gingrich wrote this and also prove that venezuala is not in a recession and this is all a bunch of lies ...be sure to read the title of the story and look just below it, you'll see that there are TWO authors ..if you can't see it ..call your sister so she can sound it out for you :lol: rest assured there is no Neewwt Ginnng-riiich there :lol: :lol:
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Posted August 17 2010 - 04:15 PM

it is on Gingrich's web site and Gingrich is a pathalogical liar.
http://digg.com/poli..._and_Falsehoods

and in case you have not noticed the capitalist banks in America are holding jobs hostage against any further regulation, and they are using tax payer money to buy t-bonds instead of loaning to business because they can use tax payer money (thanks Bush and Paulson for TARP) to extract even more tax payer money in the for t-bill interest...oh the sweet smell of facist capitalism in the morning destroying the American economy!

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Posted August 17 2010 - 05:21 PM

Farley get a clue-its no wonder you think Capitalism is dead

banks are hoarding the stimulus money provided for the purpose of stimulating credit because their own balance sheets are a financial disaster. Why won't they cut loose with some of that bail-out stimulus money? Simple the Government would have to give the banks all the money to account for the free fall in value of all the property that they should not have accepted as collateral, but did

if I were you Farley I would study up on Balance sheets--might help with your investments as your waiting for Capitalism to fail and the government to take over the economy

when you have excess capacity during time of recession companies hoard cash--but I'll let you in on on inside secret from us corporatist who watch balance sheets :lol: net corporate tax withholdings by the US government have declined by almost the amount that cash has grown by--AH Oh

your pretty naive Farley to think that in an environment in which Obama is preparing to hike not only individual taxes but corporate taxes as well, that the current LTM net tax withholdings will not go back up to their historical average of $400 billion--care to guess what the cash hoard has risen to-- :cool:

not to mention the upcoming health care fiasco-will shave some $20 billion from balance sheets

but it won't be until that grand corporatist Obama is devastated in the mid terms that were likely to see any loosening of balance sheets take place--Corporations don't like uncertainty--and the grand Corporatist has confused everyone--even the Socialist :lol:

PS Farley--when banks can borrow for next to nothing --T-Bills offer a great risk reward in uncertain times--You would think a Corporatist would know that

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Posted August 17 2010 - 05:36 PM

View PostFarley, on August 17 2010 - 04:15 PM, said:

it is on Gingrich's web site and Gingrich is a pathalogical liar.
http://digg.com/poli..._and_Falsehoods

and in case you have not noticed the capitalist banks in America are holding jobs hostage against any further regulation, and they are using tax payer money to buy t-bonds instead of loaning to business because they can use tax payer money (thanks Bush and Paulson for TARP) to extract even more tax payer money in the for t-bill interest...oh the sweet smell of facist capitalism in the morning destroying the American economy!
:cool:
he's a contributor so is pat buchanan and ted nugent :lol:

now what the hell is TARP got to do with chavez

damn look at all the Dems that voted for TARP
http://clerk.house.g...008/roll681.xml
http://www.govtrack....d?vote=h2009-26
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Posted August 17 2010 - 07:59 PM

dockey & eggy, want to join me, and my new, friend Hugo on twitter? I didn't think so, anyway, you've already met your match with Farley, on t-net! :cool:
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Posted August 18 2010 - 07:31 AM

docky??? pat buchanan and Ted Nugent??? really? that makes Newt's site credible? How about Palin? you have a strange idea about what constitutes "credibility"
eggy I think I will allow the mid terms to be decided by the electorate instead of cowering to your vast wisdom regarding the projected outcome. Capitalsim is in serious trouble and corproatist Old Bama is not making things much better by continuing the failed goBPer philosophies responsible for the mess......However It will be interesting to see what happens when the reichwing drops "Cintzens United" money bombs in selected districts in an attempt to purchase the election for goBPers.

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Posted August 18 2010 - 07:39 AM

View PostHAZ, on August 17 2010 - 07:59 PM, said:

dockey & eggy, want to join me, and my new, friend Hugo on twitter? I didn't think so, anyway, you've already met your match with Farley, on t-net! :cool:

Ask your new buddy what country he has his off shore bank account in for when he gets run out of town when the country collapses

as for Farley-

it has to be tough supporting flawed political ideals and failed economic systems and then find out the guy you supported isn't a Marxist but a center right politician and corporatist :wink: --it's no wonder he gets so confused--and on top of that he has to go to the library to get his information :shock:

and Farley--the good old dems have twice as much cash on hand as the repubs going into the mid terms- but glad to see you are already hedging for your excuses come November--its tough times for the Dems when they have to run on their own record after controlling Congress for the past 4 years -

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Posted August 18 2010 - 08:17 AM

eggy are you really so uninformed that you do not understand the difference between "party" money and "Citizens United" money? and eggy do you also not understand what a democratic socialist is? you try to demean what you do not understand by calling it "marxist" in a pejorative manner. but it only reflects your lack of depth

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Posted August 18 2010 - 09:15 AM

View PostFarley, on August 18 2010 - 08:17 AM, said:

eggy are you really so uninformed that you do not understand the difference between "party" money and "Citizens United" money? and eggy do you also not understand what a democratic socialist is? you try to demean what you do not understand by calling it "marxist" in a pejorative manner. but it only reflects your lack of depth

I do Farley--and yet it matters not

but i am very pleased you have finally found a philosophy you can now fully support--Marxists have flocked to this new political model with the failure of the socialist economic systems--

but outside of central planning by the government--and the acceptance of market mechanisms--what has changed from the failed Socialist economic model--and where is this economic model working?

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Posted August 18 2010 - 08:24 PM

View PostFarley, on August 18 2010 - 07:31 AM, said:

docky??? pat buchanan and Ted Nugent??? really? that makes Newt's site credible? How about Palin? you have a strange idea about what constitutes "credibility"
eggy I think I will allow the mid terms to be decided by the electorate instead of cowering to your vast wisdom regarding the projected outcome. Capitalsim is in serious trouble and corproatist Old Bama is not making things much better by continuing the failed goBPer philosophies responsible for the mess......However It will be interesting to see what happens when the reichwing drops "Cintzens United" money bombs in selected districts in an attempt to purchase the election for goBPers.
been busy today only got time to respond to one of your dumb posts today ..it's not newt's site he didn't right the story... read it again ...you been posting crap about capitalism is a failure and promoting marxism and socialism with your marxist economists and in the mean time Hugo Chavez's socialist bullshit down in Venezuela is a failure ..WAKE UP ..socialism is a failure Ronnie Milsap can see that!
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Posted August 19 2010 - 09:24 AM

rael capitalism has about as much in common with the corporate socialism practiced in the good ole US of A as Bolshevism had to do with economic Marxism.......what I said is American capitalism is consuming itself...which is quite true...and that I supported democratic socialism, which is regulated capitalism (saves capitalism from its worst excesses) and provides an safety net for its citizens and preserves the commonwealth. It is regretful that you are so propagandized that you knees jerk every time a glen beck pulls the string.

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Posted August 19 2010 - 06:39 PM

propaganda Farley--look at your threads on the front page

capitalism destroying itself --and you have a Socialist political commentator talking about Capitalism

Minsky fortells failure of capitalism --

more leanrin' for eggy, jimbo, and docky --with Socialist Richard Wolf

The ReichWing has an agenda with Maddow

The farce that is the tea bagger movement

and that's just on the front page--obviously you haven't been "propagandized" :oops:

But Farley promise me you will at least educate yourself on the difference between Social Democrats and Democratic Socialist--You'll be shocked to discover you have "propagandized" yourself--cause one of those groups don't believe in any form of Capitalism (regulated or not)

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Posted August 27 2010 - 10:12 PM

socialism still devastating Venezuela

http://www.investors...Of-Caracas.aspx
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Posted August 28 2010 - 12:35 PM

dockman?? really??? you post an article from a corporate controlled, pro- multi-national corporation publication? since they are by their very nature anti socialist and anti democracy, what would you expect....docky aim that critical eye at American banks and corporations that have removed the fuel of our economy and are hoarding the cash and tell me what is devestating the American economy? could it be the bail out cash that CHENEY/bush and Henry Paulson gifted the banks and AIG which the bank then failed to loan out but purchased T Bills inorder to do NOTHING to suck in more tax payer money? possibly??? docky?

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Posted August 28 2010 - 12:50 PM

View PostFarley, on August 28 2010 - 12:35 PM, said:

dockman?? really??? you post an article from a corporate controlled, pro- multi-national corporation publication? since they are by their very nature anti socialist and anti democracy, what would you expect....docky aim that critical eye at American banks and corporations that have removed the fuel of our economy and are hoarding the cash and tell me what is devestating the American economy? could it be the bail out cash that CHENEY/bush and Henry Paulson gifted the banks and AIG which the bank then failed to loan out but purchased T Bills inorder to do NOTHING to suck in more tax payer money? possibly??? docky?
the only news you'll believe is from the state run media out of venezuala ...we all know how socialists,marxists, communists or whatever you want to call yourselves today hates free press

what's the problem with our economy? big government , deficits ,taxes ...lack of jobs do to illegal aliens and free trade
"The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first." ...Thomas Jefferson

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Posted August 28 2010 - 12:59 PM

here's more free press

http://english.eluni...9A4358131.shtml
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Posted August 28 2010 - 03:21 PM

wrong again docky....Venezuela's economic problems were brought about by a severe drought caused by capitalistic climate change from the industrial nations.

http://www.upi.com/T...89211275065651/