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[FrankieRavioli]

Rome/Hoffa2011, on July 19 2010 - 03:48 PM, said:

Pick which way I want to go carefully huh? I know Rome has found out people's identities from Phil on this website, so is that a THREAT?

now everyone knows that you dont know shit. phil doesnt give up identities to anyone.

[Rome/Hoffa2011]

From July 20 2010 - 06:06 AM:

now everyone knows that you dont know shit. phil doesnt give up identities to anyone.

Phil does Rome's website and Rome was responsible for getting the overseer out of Phil's local. Rome has gotten Phil to shut down Teamsternet a couple times to try and find out identities and where certain posts were coming from. Once was when somebody posted a bunch of topics about VPs having affairs (Cipriani, Slawson and Flynn) and Phil was able to tell Rome that the posts were coming from DC. Another time was just recently. Just because YOU don't know doesn't mean it is not true.

On another note, here is where Barking Dog got her name:

Barking Dog

By the way, where is Fremont, CA?

[RealTeam]

Rome/Hoffa2011, on July 20 2010 - 07:35 AM, said:

Phil does Rome's website and Rome was responsible for getting the overseer out of Phil's local. Rome has gotten Phil to shut down Teamsternet a couple times to try and find out identities and where certain posts were coming from. Once was when somebody posted a bunch of topics about VPs having affairs (Cipriani, Slawson and Flynn) and Phil was able to tell Rome that the posts were coming from DC. Another time was just recently. Just because YOU don't know doesn't mean it is not true.

On another note, here is where Barking Dog got her name:

Barking Dog

By the way, where is Fremont, CA?

The Barking Dog was the name of a newsletter put out at the NUMMI auto assembly plant by Caroline Lund a UAW member. Lund worked at NUMMI from 1992-2006. The Barking Dog was a TDU style/ Socialist newsletter. She died in like 2006 from Lou Gehrig's disease. The NUMMI plant (recently closed) is located in Fremont, CA.

Fremont is located in the southeast section of the San Francisco Bay Area. But I think you know that, and your Fremont question is for another reason.

For the record: Phil has more personal integrity than you give him credit for.

[400lbsgorrilla]

yougottabekidding, on July 19 2010 - 08:01 PM, said:

Anyone who would even attempt to defend the SHIT thrown around by Barking Dog can kiss my fucking ass. Fuck you you fucking piece of fucking shit. If that isn't clear enough for you Paula then I don't know how to make it any clearer. Maybe you should pull your head up from between Mary Kay's fucking knees and look around. Your feeble attempts to destroy OUR Union are worthless and futile. Go away and take your SEIU/TDU agenda with you you fucking pig.

It's sad that a post that was meant to sing the praises of the great teamster leader Tom Kegel have turned into a slander ridden rag. But I shouldnt be surprised seeing who is putting the shit out there, Two Cheesedicks who don't have the brains God gave a goose. You two Cheesedicks think you know more then you really due, first off Barking dog is not Paula but someone else, Second I have never met Mary Kay let alone put my head between her legs,thirdly I have been called lots of things in my life but I am third generation Teamster not a SEIU/TUD fuckin fuck. I want to believe that Phil has more integrity then to put anyone's private info out there for anyone even Rome. But here you go Cheesedicks MY NAME IS DOUG RADONICH I AM A MEMBER OF LOCAL 853 IN SAN LEANDRO SO IF YOU TWO ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO COME LOOKING FOR ME I HAVE GIVEN YOU A LEG UP. I believe that you can find out all the info you want about me from Titan and if you are smart enough for that just ask your boss who I am,I have meet numerous times and I stood in front of him at the last convention. It is sad that you two cheesedicks don't get out and meet the real back bone of this union,just keep sitting in you ivory tower and think that know one will ever figure out who you are. You can take my comments to the bank and I look forward to meeting you.Take care and be careful.

[Rome/Hoffa2011]

From July 20 2010 - 01:14 PM:

The Barking Dog was the name of a newsletter put out at the NUMMI auto assembly plant by Caroline Lund a UAW member. Lund worked at NUMMI from 1992-2006. The Barking Dog was a TDU style/ Socialist newsletter. She died in like 2006 from Lou Gehrig's disease. The NUMMI plant (recently closed) is located in Fremont, CA.

Fremont is located in the southeast section of the San Francisco Bay Area. But I think you know that, and your Fremont question is for another reason.

For the record: Phil has more personal integrity than you give him credit for.

I don't have a problem with Phil brother, I have a problem with Barking Dog.

Rome has done a lot for Phil, in fact, if it was not for Rome Local 624 probably would have been trusteed. And if you know Rome, you know how persuasive he can be. I am positive Phil has provided Rome a posters location in at least one instance. If you don't believe me, ask Phil or Rome. I doubt they will lie about it.

Did you know Local 853 represented warehouse members at the NUMMI plant where the "Barking Dog" newspaper was circulated? Rome just spoke there a couple months ago. Paula has a whole network throughout the warehouse division. If you notice Barking Dog's posts they tend to relate back to warehouse like her recent post about John Williams trying to get a meeting with Hoffa. And Barking Dog posted info about warehouse rep John Steger getting escorted out of the IBT building. She has also posted info criticizing the firing of other warehouse staff.

Barking Dog has inside info of janitor negotiations at the IBT building, negotiations that nobody but Bell and Deaner had info about. She has a personal grudge against the organizing dept. and Leo Deaner. She has connections inside the warehouse division. She has a connection to the bay area. There is more including personal conversations I have had with people who know Paula and know she is Barking Dog.

The gorilla claimed to want proof and said he was a close personal friend of Paula. I've met the wives of all my close personal friends. He says he's never met Mary Kay. Maybe he doesn't know her as well as he thinks.

[400lbsgorrilla]

There you go you take the Name of another great Teamster leader in order to throw a disparaging mark on a good name. Then you throw so much shit at the wall something has to stick. You were correct I have never met Mary Kay but I don't think they are married so I do know all my close personal friends wife's.Local 853 represents lots of warehouses and Nummi is closed and will not reopen until next year when Tesla Motors start making cars and then we will have to try and organize the warehouse all over again. KEEP TRYIN YOU MIGHT GET IT RIGHT ONE OF THESE TIMES. Remember even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. CHEESEDICK!!!!!

[yougottabekiddin]

400lbsgorrilla, on July 20 2010 - 05:00 PM, said:

It's sad that a post that was meant to sing the praises of the great teamster leader Tom Kegel have turned into a slander ridden rag. But I shouldnt be surprised seeing who is putting the shit out there, Two Cheesedicks who don't have the brains God gave a goose. You two Cheesedicks think you know more then you really due, first off Barking dog is not Paula but someone else, Second I have never met Mary Kay let alone put my head between her legs,thirdly I have been called lots of things in my life but I am third generation Teamster not a SEIU/TUD fuckin fuck. I want to believe that Phil has more integrity then to put anyone's private info out there for anyone even Rome. But here you go Cheesedicks MY NAME IS DOUG RADONICH I AM A MEMBER OF LOCAL 853 IN SAN LEANDRO SO IF YOU TWO ARE DUMB ENOUGH TO COME LOOKING FOR ME I HAVE GIVEN YOU A LEG UP. I believe that you can find out all the info you want about me from Titan and if you are smart enough for that just ask your boss who I am,I have meet numerous times and I stood in front of him at the last convention. It is sad that you two cheesedicks don't get out and meet the real back bone of this union,just keep sitting in you ivory tower and think that know one will ever figure out who you are. You can take my comments to the bank and I look forward to meeting you.Take care and be careful.

Look champ, I have no intention of trying to find you. Or "come looking for" you. I don't CARE who you are. I don't HAVE to. I am not employed by the International, regardless of the shit you believe. I am a 21 year Teamster that doesn't like fucking morons like Barking Dog spreading horrible lies on the internet about MY Union. Your friend has been trashing MY Union for years. Posting the most derogatory, hateful shit I have seen on here. So don't think for a fucking minute that your little "be careful" innuendo will keep me from telling that piece of shit to fuck off. She is a scumbag. And lest you think I might only talk shit to a woman, I can honestly tell you that, if I ever wanted to I could drag just about any human being in the world to the ground and choke them into unconciousness. Unless of course that person happened to have trained longer in brazilian jiu-jitsu than I have. Or muay thai. But most folks haven't, so I feel pretty safe in making that statement. So brother, whether you are a 400 pound gorilla or a barking fucking dog, I'm not going to be scared into backing down. Neither dogs nor gorillas are immune from being put down.

[FatBoy]

yougottabekiddin, on July 20 2010 - 07:33 PM, said:

Look champ, I have no intention of trying to find you. Or "come looking for" you. I don't CARE who you are. I don't HAVE to. I am not employed by the International, regardless of the shit you believe. I am a 21 year Teamster that doesn't like fucking morons like Barking Dog spreading horrible lies on the internet about MY Union. Your friend has been trashing MY Union for years. Posting the most derogatory, hateful shit I have seen on here. So don't think for a fucking minute that your little "be careful" innuendo will keep me from telling that piece of shit to fuck off. She is a scumbag. And lest you think I might only talk shit to a woman, I can honestly tell you that, if I ever wanted to I could drag just about any human being in the world to the ground and choke them into unconciousness. Unless of course that person happened to have trained longer in brazilian jiu-jitsu than I have. Or muay thai. But most folks haven't, so I feel pretty safe in making that statement. So brother, whether you are a 400 pound gorilla or a barking fucking dog, I'm not going to be scared into backing down. Neither dogs nor gorillas are immune from being put down.

This dork is obviously RealTeam...

[yougottabekiddin]

FatBoy, on July 20 2010 - 07:43 PM, said:

This dork is obviously RealTeam...

Haha honored to be mentioned in the same breath as RealTeam. A standup guy who will tell you to your face what he thinks. But judging by YOUR screen name, you are obviously Paula.

[400lbsgorrilla]

With so many things going wrong with our work and I mean that in general you would think these people would focus there attention on more important issues other then Paula or what she may or may not have said. But grumpy old men who haven't had to work for a living have lost site of the real issues and for that I am sorry,as they were put there to help and guide us not tear us down or apart,STOP PICKING ON EACH OTHER WORK TOGETHER OR GET OUT.I Believe Mr,Hoffa is the only candidate for GP that can lead us going forward.... Hug a Tree grasshopper

[DumpHoffaNow]

400lbsgorrilla, on July 20 2010 - 08:51 PM, said:

With so many things going wrong with our work and I mean that in general you would think these people would focus there attention on more important issues other then Paula or what she may or may not have said. But grumpy old men who haven't had to work for a living have lost site of the real issues and for that I am sorry,as they were put there to help and guide us not tear us down or apart,STOP PICKING ON EACH OTHER WORK TOGETHER OR GET OUT.I Believe Mr,Hoffa is the only candidate for GP that can lead us going forward.... Hug a Tree grasshopper

I disagree with your ststement that Hoffa is the only candidate to lead us forward and I will tell you why. For the last 12 years Hoffa has destroyed our union and has led it backwards.

Hoffa has destroyed the finances of the IBT to where we are broke. They are now resorting to laying off essential staff that provide services to the membership and still not getting the finances under control. They have not funded TAPP which will bankrupt the IBT.

Hoffa has divided the membership to where his own Executive Board does not support him and is speaking out against him. Hoffa has created division with Local Unions and Joint Councils Hoffa is personally involved in Joint Council 43's election because the Joint Council President does not support him.

Hoffa refuses to organize in core industries that would maintain the standards in those industries. Unlike Hoffa Sr who understood you had to maintain standards in core industries or you would lose those standards Hoffa Jr just does not get it. A perfect example is UPS Freight. The shit contract that was negotiated for them destroyed the standards in the Freight industry. Not putting them in Teamster pension funds does not support our existing and retired members in those funds. The policy at the IBT to not put members into the Teamster funds fucks Teamsters in those funds.

We are losing members at an unprecedented rate. We are smaller now even if you count the mergers of the other unions.

We are clearly a weaker union than in the past. That is atributed to the current leadership. I want a stronger Teamsters Union and Hoffa has demonstrated he doesn't have the nuts for that. % more years of Hoffa we will be worse off than today. DumpHoffaNow

[705upser]

SHIFTALKER, on July 19 2010 - 07:19 AM, said:

705upser,

Our contract has always bested the national, that is no surprise. We had the advantage of being able to hold out once the national was settled and use the leverage that being in the center of the country affords us. Steve is smart and is not afraid to use that leverage when he has got it.

Ken Hall, with the support of powerful local union leaders, has done a good job when you look at the UPS contract as a whole. You can pick apart any contract and the horse trading that takes place during all negotiations and just focus on what was given up. Hall and his committee were able to get increases in wages and benefits of $9 per worker per hour over the life of the contract. This was in an environment where workers were getting screwed right and left. I’m not willing to knock leaders like Hall, Steve and local leaders like Marty Freitas because I know how hard they worked on the contract. We shouldn’t go slamming our Teamster leaders at UPS, we should just hope they use our contract as a starting point next time.

To be honest, I was never a Hoffa man until Gegare announced he was running against him. I can not stand Fred Gegare and what he has done to my brothers here in Illinois. We will see whether UPSers will vote for Hoffa or not. If he has Ken Hall and Steve Pocztowski on his slate, he’ll certainly get my vote over a rat like Gegare.

You are right that typically 705 has done better in contracts, but never this good. Steve and everyone down at 705 know what they are doing and if they dont know what they are doing Steve shows them the door. This local remembers that they are here for the membership, something that has been missing at the IBT for some time now.

What really disturbs me is that we now have 5 people that where under Hoffa now that have jumped ship. Keegle is now retiring but he also goes on to say exactly what Fred said that Hoffa is listening to outsiders over his own elected running mates. I know Steve wont take any shit, but can Steve as a VP get more things accomplished than what 4 other VP's and Keegle couldnt? Steve is only 1 person and has my vote in this up coming election, but Hoffa will not get my vote.

[SHIFTALKER]

705upser, on July 25 2010 - 07:39 AM, said:

You are right that typically 705 has done better in contracts, but never this good. Steve and everyone down at 705 know what they are doing and if they dont know what they are doing Steve shows them the door. This local remembers that they are here for the membership, something that has been missing at the IBT for some time now.

What really disturbs me is that we now have 5 people that where under Hoffa now that have jumped ship. Keegle is now retiring but he also goes on to say exactly what Fred said that Hoffa is listening to outsiders over his own elected running mates. I know Steve wont take any shit, but can Steve as a VP get more things accomplished than what 4 other VP's and Keegle couldnt? Steve is only 1 person and has my vote in this up coming election, but Hoffa will not get my vote.

Is Ken going to get your vote? He'll get mine.

What's the deal, the people you are saying are jumping ship are the the worst ones on that board. Isn't that a sign that Hoffa is standing up to some of the jerks. Maybe it's not that they're jumping ship, but they're essentially being shown the door (and that's what you say you like about Steve). Remember it's Gegare and Slawson who bailed on Hoffa's Slate immediately after Steve was named instead of that sellout Zuckerman.

I think Steve and Ken and others can get a lot done, because Hoffa's already heading in their direction. They've name Buhel to the board, word is Ron Herrera from California is coming on. This sounds good to me.

Remember: Democracy is a team sport. You just can't pick one superstar and then not support the team surrounding him. Thank god, the Bulls didn't get Lebron.

[DumpHoffaNow]

SHIFTALKER, on July 26 2010 - 07:04 AM, said:

Is Ken going to get your vote? He'll get mine.

What's the deal, the people you are saying are jumping ship are the the worst ones on that board. Isn't that a sign that Hoffa is standing up to some of the jerks. Maybe it's not that they're jumping ship, but they're essentially being shown the door (and that's what you say you like about Steve). Remember it's Gegare and Slawson who bailed on Hoffa's Slate immediately after Steve was named instead of that sellout Zuckerman.

I think Steve and Ken and others can get a lot done, because Hoffa's already heading in their direction. They've name Buhel to the board, word is Ron Herrera from California is coming on. This sounds good to me.

Remember: Democracy is a team sport. You just can't pick one superstar and then not support the team surrounding him. Thank god, the Bulls didn't get Lebron.

Mr Keegel has "jumped ship". Are you saying he is one of the worst ones on the board? Hoffa wouldn't make a pimple on Mr Keegel's ass.

[winn1975]

DumpHoffaNow, on July 24 2010 - 10:31 AM, said:

I disagree with your ststement that Hoffa is the only candidate to lead us forward and I will tell you why. For the last 12 years Hoffa has destroyed our union and has led it backwards.

Hoffa has destroyed the finances of the IBT to where we are broke. They are now resorting to laying off essential staff that provide services to the membership and still not getting the finances under control. They have not funded TAPP which will bankrupt the IBT.

Hoffa has divided the membership to where his own Executive Board does not support him and is speaking out against him. Hoffa has created division with Local Unions and Joint Councils Hoffa is personally involved in Joint Council 43's election because the Joint Council President does not support him.

Hoffa refuses to organize in core industries that would maintain the standards in those industries. Unlike Hoffa Sr who understood you had to maintain standards in core industries or you would lose those standards Hoffa Jr just does not get it. A perfect example is UPS Freight. The shit contract that was negotiated for them destroyed the standards in the Freight industry. Not putting them in Teamster pension funds does not support our existing and retired members in those funds. The policy at the IBT to not put members into the Teamster funds fucks Teamsters in those funds.

We are losing members at an unprecedented rate. We are smaller now even if you count the mergers of the other unions.

We are clearly a weaker union than in the past. That is atributed to the current leadership. I want a stronger Teamsters Union and Hoffa has demonstrated he doesn't have the nuts for that. % more years of Hoffa we will be worse off than today. DumpHoffaNow

Hoffa has allowed outside agencies to rifle thru our hard earned dues money and investigate our own members!
The I.R.B. Spent over 180,000 dollars investigating one member in Philadelphia , and no he doesn't have a vowel at the end of his name!
180,000 dollars?? And Hoffa allowed this to go on?
A member ??
Hey Jimmy that money could of been spent on a truck driving school, in Philadelphia !!
We don't need your personal police force, the I.r.B, wasting our money on our own members.
2 million a year we pay to be goverened by jimmys attack squad.
This man don't know what it is to be a teamster !!
He's just some jackass that was lucky enough to have the last name Hoffa!
Hey Jimmy wake the fuck up and realize your a product of nepotism , you know that word right?
That's why the IRB was sent to Philadelphia right ? Because of nepotism???
Well your last fucking name is Hoffa retard , figure it out !!
How do you think you got your fucking job?
On merit?? Please!!

[Mewing Cat]

[quote name='DumpHoffaNow' date='July 26 2010 - 08:15 AM' timestamp='1280157329' post='280737']
Mr Keegel has "jumped ship". Are you saying he is one of the worst ones on the board? Hoffa wouldn't make a pimple on Mr Keegel's ass.
[/quote


Please stop knocking Mr. Keegel's past 11 years for your own selfish political game. The man is retiring and he deserves a good retirement with his family. He's done a great job for all of us.

""Working side-by-side with you as an elected leader of a local union, joint council and finally of the IBT, together we have honored the Teamster legacy of fighting for the rights of working families."

"The programs that we have put in place at the IBT over the past 11 years will serve our members for decades to come."

The above quotes come from the letter that Mr. Keegel sent to all locals. Notice how he said WE. That means Mr. Keegel has done a great job as a leader on a team.

[DumpHoffaNow]

[quote name='Mewing Cat' date='July 26 2010 - 12:01 PM' timestamp='1280174511' post='280749']
[quote name='DumpHoffaNow' date='July 26 2010 - 08:15 AM' timestamp='1280157329' post='280737']
Mr Keegel has "jumped ship". Are you saying he is one of the worst ones on the board? Hoffa wouldn't make a pimple on Mr Keegel's ass.
[/quote


Please stop knocking Mr. Keegel's past 11 years for your own selfish political game. The man is retiring and he deserves a good retirement with his family. He's done a great job for all of us.

Working side-by-side with you as an elected leader of a local union, joint council and finally of the IBT, together we have honored the Teamster legacy of fighting for the rights of working families.

The programs that we have put in place at the IBT over the past 11 years will serve our members for decades to come.

The above quotes come from the letter that Mr. Keegel sent to all locals. Notice how he said WE. That means Mr. Keegel has done a great job as a leader on a team.


Obviously you can't read. It was Shiftalker who said those jumping ship were the worst ones on the Board. I disagreed. I have the utmost respect and admiration for Mr Keegel and his 50 years of Teamster service. Below is a quote from the second paragraph of Mr Keegel's letter to the General Executive Board.

This is not the time for me to detail all of my reasons for my decision and my thoughts about the problems facing the IBT, bu that time will come soon enough. I will say that the IBT in particular and the labor movement in general have faced and will continue to face, tremendous economic and political challenges during the months and years to come. Our International Union is already challenged in the 2011 election both from within and without our ranks. The IBT, its Joint Councils, and the Local Unions are responsible to preserve and protect the jobs, incomes, benefits, and pensions of our 1.4 million active members and our retirees. To meet this responsibility, the IBt should be run by the elected Teamster leaders in whom the members have placed their trust, and not outsiders or anyone else. Likewise, our 2011 election campaign should be directed by elected Teamster leaders and not individuals over whom we have no control. The repeated election rule violations must stop. We can no longer allow our names to be used in this manner. We are responsible for what is done in the name of the Teamsters, and we must take charge of that reponsibility.

[400lbsgorrilla]

Can you please tell us where you got a copy of Mr Keegals letter to the GEB? If it not to much trouble why don't you post the entire letter for all to read.I am surprised that you haven't posted it yet seeing how it is such a damming letter to the Hoffa champagne. Come on put it up.

[DumpHoffaNow]

400lbsgorrilla, on July 26 2010 - 03:39 PM, said:

Can you please tell us where you got a copy of Mr Keegals letter to the GEB? If it not to much trouble why don't you post the entire letter for all to read.I am surprised that you haven't posted it yet seeing how it is such a damming letter to the Hoffa champagne. Come on put it up.

You can read and download it from the TDU website

[400lbsgorrilla]

Ok I went to your TDU web site and I had to debug my computer after reading the letters from Mr Keegel,And yes I saw the quotes that you put up on this thread and those quotes can be interpreted any way the person reading them wants to take them. I read both letters and have the utmost respect for Tom, until I read or hear him tell us exactly what his opinions are, I am not going to read anything into his letters and I suggest that everyone do the same. It is very easy to sit back and arm chair quarterback the intent of Mr Keegel's letters. the responsible thing is to just hold back and lets see where the road Tom has started taking us leads.Any way you look at these letters we are loosing one of the greatest union leaders ever.Thank you Mr Keegel And good luck.