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[HAZ]

Krashed, and his other, rascist, groupies, have slandered me, and a family, member, on more than one occasion, just thought you should know. I was once suspended here for months, just for posting a political, statement, regarding the 2008, Presidential election primary. It was regarding me, voting for Clinton, (fraud friendly florida). Millions of our votes, where not counted. This was a minor infraction, of t-net policies, we guess?, for Smack Talk.

[jimbo]

HAZ, on April 19 2010 - 10:18 PM, said:

Krashed, and his other, rascist, groupies, have slandered me, and a family, member, on more than one occasion, just thought you should know. I was once suspended here for months, just for posting a political, statement, regarding the 2008, Presidential election primary. It was regarding me, voting for Clinton, (fraud friendly florida). Millions of our votes, where not counted. This was a minor infraction, of t-net policies, we guess?, for Smack Talk.

Oh shut up! Crybaby! Maybe the reason why you get slandered is because you are a slanderer? BTW, your not the only one who has been suspended from this web site.

[HAZ]

Just more, right wing lies, and propaganda, the latest:, that I hate Jews! Slander gone wild!, by a T-net moderator!
PS; Heck, I even remembered them on Holocaust Day, as it was, The Orthodox Church's, Day of Forgiveness!

[stark]

HAZ, as a monitor on this board I have tried to keep personal insults out of the discussions, however, there is still a lot of "tit for tat" comments that go back and forth. Personally, I haven't seen you take an unfair amount of abuse you seem to be able to give anybody as good as they send.

[HAZ]

name='stark' date='April 22 2010 - 01:23 AM' timestamp='1271859813' post='276660']
HAZ, as a monitor on this board I have tried to keep personal insults out of the discussions, however, there is still a lot of "tit for tat" comments that go back and forth. Personally, I haven't seen you take an unfair amount of abuse you seem to be able to give anybody as good as they send.

Thanks bro, think you're correct, taking cheaps shots, at member's wife, or children, just sort of goes against my grain. Personally, I would never do this. Guess anything goes, other than family! Heck, at some of our Union meetings, it got so rowdy, we had to have!, a sargent of arms.

Those were the good old days, Union meetings, with a packed house!

[stark]

How well I remember those days! I would like it if people posting on here didn't resort to name calling..been quilty of it myself, but I try and to not direct it at any fellow posters. I've always thought that we should keep this Brotherhood of Teamsters a real Brotherhood, and not act like Cain and Able (one of the sadest stories in the Bible: imo)

[HAZ]

name='stark' date='April 22 2010 - 08:09 AM' timestamp='1271884188' post='276691']
How well I remember those days! I would like it if people posting on here didn't resort to name calling..been quilty of it myself, but I try and to not direct it at any fellow posters. I've always thought that we should keep this Brotherhood of Teamsters a real Brotherhood, and not act like Cain and Able (one of the sadest stories in the Bible: imo)
AMEN!

[HAZ]

name='VegasJim' date='April 23 2010 - 03:45 AM' timestamp='1271954706' post='276750']
HAZ,

Are you at all familiar with the term "hypocrisy?" The reason I ask is that you've accused krash of being a racist and suggested by way of innuendo that he's in or approves of the KKK. This, my friend, is the very definition of slander, something about which you're now complaining - and you seem to feel an odd sense of freedom doing things with which you later complain when others do. Clean your own house before worrying about his.


I would never!, say anything about a T-Net members ,children, wife, or family...so moderator krash, is your right, wing pal, that's cool. I just read where brother Farley, mentioned; " blind hatred ",maybe there's such a thing as, blind loyalty? I guess, would feels this way, towards my friend, and brother Farley.

[HAZ]

name='VegasJim' date='April 23 2010 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1271977522' post='276767']
HAZ, what you're trying to do here is to differentiate "levels" of crap talking. Sorry, but accusing nearly anyone in the US of being in or supportive of the KKK is extremely offensive, something I'd think you'd know given your area of residence. What you're trying to do is make your behavior somehow different than krash's, but in truth both of you are talking crap so I don't really see why you're somehow "better" than him. The truth is you're not, as there's no logical or practical distinction behind one or another's crap talking.

Look, krash has made you look like the fool you are and now you're trying desperately (and in vain) to level the playing field. It won't happen with my assistance for, as I've said, when two people talk crap to one another they both deserve return volleys. If you don't know that I question how you've made it this far in life. Then again, given your wacky visions of communism and socialism as paradises I guess I'm less than surprised.

It's obviously clear, you, and your little, right wing, moderator (krashed), no nothing about HONOR! "baggers", all of you!

[jimbo]

HAZ, on April 22 2010 - 09:56 PM, said:

name='VegasJim' post='276767' date='April 23 2010 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1271977522']
HAZ, what you're trying to do here is to differentiate "levels" of crap talking. Sorry, but accusing nearly anyone in the US of being in or supportive of the KKK is extremely offensive, something I'd think you'd know given your area of residence. What you're trying to do is make your behavior somehow different than krash's, but in truth both of you are talking crap so I don't really see why you're somehow "better" than him. The truth is you're not, as there's no logical or practical distinction behind one or another's crap talking.

Look, krash has made you look like the fool you are and now you're trying desperately (and in vain) to level the playing field. It won't happen with my assistance for, as I've said, when two people talk crap to one another they both deserve return volleys. If you don't know that I question how you've made it this far in life. Then again, given your wacky visions of communism and socialism as paradises I guess I'm less than surprised.

It's obviously clear, you, and your little, right wing, moderator (krashed), no nothing about HONOR! "baggers", all of you!

Wow! VJ a"baggar"?........I don't think so...

[HAZ]

" Wacky view "? Read the Bible, as many times as I have, and you just might believe...." I love justice. " And perhaps?....everyone is entitled to; housing, food ,and education! (Karl Marx) Intersting, our country is so rich, we can crash rockets into the Moon, yet millions of our fellow, country men, and of course women, have NO! health care!

Very, "wacky view"!

ps; also so rich, we can send israel, a daily, love offering of 15 million dollars!

[egghead]

HAZ, on April 23 2010 - 10:00 PM, said:

" Wacky view "? Read the Bible, as many times as I have, and you just might believe...." I love justice. " And perhaps?....everyone is entitled to; housing, food ,and education! (Karl Marx) Intersting, our country is so rich, we can crash rockets into the Moon, yet millions of our fellow, country men, and of course women, have NO! health care!

Very, "wacky view"!

ps; also so rich, we can send israel, a daily, love offering of 15 million dollars!

We are so rich we can give folks a lot of things

and millions in our country drop out of High School--we don't force them
and millions in our country don't live in a shelter-we don't force them
and millions in our country don't accept food stamps--we don't force them

So why are we forcing people to have health insurance

[HAZ]

name='egghead' date='April 25 2010 - 05:34 AM' timestamp='1272134063' post='276897']
We are so rich we can give folks a lot of things

and millions in our country drop out of High School--we don't force them
and millions in our country don't live in a shelter-we don't force them
and millions in our country don't accept food stamps--we don't force them

So why are we forcing people to have health insurance


"eggy", maybe it's because of all the unpaid, docs and hospital bills, that supposidly, make things more expensive for everyone? Also, if the insured took advatage of preventative treatments-care, would save everyone $$$$$, in the long run? Personally, I think it should be Nationalized, and free for everyone, as well as, public transportation. We subsidize farmers and corporate interest, why don't we do the same for health care? free for everyone! Look at the money, we've spent for space, adventures the last four, decades!

[egghead]

HAZ, on April 24 2010 - 10:55 AM, said:

name='egghead' post='276897' date='April 25 2010 - 05:34 AM' timestamp='1272134063']
We are so rich we can give folks a lot of things

and millions in our country drop out of High School--we don't force them
and millions in our country don't live in a shelter-we don't force them
and millions in our country don't accept food stamps--we don't force them

So why are we forcing people to have health insurance


"eggy", maybe it's because of all the unpaid, docs and hospital bills, that supposidly, make things more expensive for everyone? Also, if the insured took advatage of preventative treatments-care, would save everyone $$$$$, in the long run? Personally, I think it should be Nationalized, and free for everyone, as well as, public transportation. We subsidize farmers and corporate interest, why don't we do the same for health care? free for everyone! Look at the money, we've spent for space, adventures the last four, decades!

since when has any government service ever been free? as for subsidies--not a huge believer in them except to advance innovation and technology

and the focus on prevention as a key source of cost savings in health care also sidesteps the question of whether such measures are generally more promising and efficient than the treatment of existing conditions (countries with Universal health care have come to the conclusion that in fact only very specific and focused preventative treatments make sense) (and as a liberal you should be advocating the ban of smoking alcohol and unhealthy food while forcing us to run at least a couple miles a day which would prevent over 40% of preventable diseases in the country)

but I digress

The only way universal health care can adequately address rising health care costs is by limiting available care--(it has happened in every country that has Universal health care)

Use common sense Haz-If every American has unlimited access to visit a doctor as many times as they want--whenever they want--with no cost--do we have enough resources to accommodate them

No

So to control the cost access is delayed or denied and quality has to be reduced to what everyone can afford.

and Logic tells you--

it gets worse over time because it wont control cost

because we would have the most inefficient company in the world running it the government

Bottom line dear Haz I want to fix health care by making it more efficient and more affordable and more accountable--not find a different methodology to pay or subsidize a broken system

[HAZ]

name='egghead' date='April 25 2010 - 07:23 AM' timestamp='1272140580' post='276905']
since when has any government service ever been free? as for subsidies--not a huge believer in them except to advance innovation and technology

and the focus on prevention as a key source of cost savings in health care also sidesteps the question of whether such measures are generally more promising and efficient than the treatment of existing conditions (countries with Universal health care have come to the conclusion that in fact only very specific and focused preventative treatments make sense) (and as a liberal you should be advocating the ban of smoking alcohol and unhealthy food while forcing us to run at least a couple miles a day which would prevent over 40% of preventable diseases in the country)

but I digress

The only way universal health care can adequately address rising health care costs is by limiting available care--(it has happened in every country that has Universal health care)

Use common sense Haz-If every American has unlimited access to visit a doctor as many times as they want--whenever they want--with no cost--do we have enough resources to accommodate them

No

So to control the cost access is delayed or denied and quality has to be reduced to what everyone can afford.

and Logic tells you--

it gets worse over time because it wont control cost

because we would have the most inefficient company in the world running it the government

Bottom line dear Haz I want to fix health care by making it more efficient and more affordable and more accountable--not find a different methodology to pay or subsidize a broken system
" eggy ", " A journy of a thousand miles starts with a single step. " President Obama, and our government, took the first step!

[jimbo]

HAZ, on April 24 2010 - 10:15 PM, said:

name='egghead' post='276905' date='April 25 2010 - 07:23 AM' timestamp='1272140580']
since when has any government service ever been free? as for subsidies--not a huge believer in them except to advance innovation and technology

and the focus on prevention as a key source of cost savings in health care also sidesteps the question of whether such measures are generally more promising and efficient than the treatment of existing conditions (countries with Universal health care have come to the conclusion that in fact only very specific and focused preventative treatments make sense) (and as a liberal you should be advocating the ban of smoking alcohol and unhealthy food while forcing us to run at least a couple miles a day which would prevent over 40% of preventable diseases in the country)

but I digress

The only way universal health care can adequately address rising health care costs is by limiting available care--(it has happened in every country that has Universal health care)

Use common sense Haz-If every American has unlimited access to visit a doctor as many times as they want--whenever they want--with no cost--do we have enough resources to accommodate them

No

So to control the cost access is delayed or denied and quality has to be reduced to what everyone can afford.

and Logic tells you--

it gets worse over time because it wont control cost

because we would have the most inefficient company in the world running it the government

Bottom line dear Haz I want to fix health care by making it more efficient and more affordable and more accountable--not find a different methodology to pay or subsidize a broken system
" eggy ", " A journy of a thousand miles starts with a single step. " President Obama, and our government, took the first step!

Then, in that case, I hope like hell he falls and breaks both of his legs before taking any more steps.

[egghead]

Quote

Haz says-" eggy ", " A journy of a thousand miles starts with a single step. " President Obama, and our government, took the first step!

and that first step was a doozie-but very typical of the left wing thought process

according to the government actuary report just released

We are going to get

Higher costs for consumers ($1250 for a family of four)-Businesses will pay $87 billion in penalties-14 million people will lose their employer coverage-national health spending will increase by $311 billion over the coming decade (800 billion and climbing over the CBO estimate)-23 million people will remain uninsured in 2019-Fifteen percent of all hospitals, nursing homes, and other providers treating Medicare patients could be operating at a loss by 2019-newly eligible for Medicaid will have trouble finding physicians-and were in a crises with a doctor shortfall today

but worse--we will have 18 million consumers--who will game the system-they will pay the penalty for no coverage until they get sick then take insurance

Now that's change we can believe in

[HAZ]

name='egghead' date='April 27 2010 - 01:55 AM' timestamp='1272293726' post='277012']
and that first step was a doozie-but very typical of the left wing thought process

according to the government actuary report just released

We are going to get

Higher costs for consumers ($1250 for a family of four)-Businesses will pay $87 billion in penalties-14 million people will lose their employer coverage-national health spending will increase by $311 billion over the coming decade (800 billion and climbing over the CBO estimate)-23 million people will remain uninsured in 2019-Fifteen percent of all hospitals, nursing homes, and other providers treating Medicare patients could be operating at a loss by 2019-newly eligible for Medicaid will have trouble finding physicians-and were in a crises with a doctor shortfall today

but worse--we will have 18 million consumers--who will game the system-they will pay the penalty for no coverage until they get sick then take insurance

Now that's change we can believe in

If we'd stop, our futile wars, and aggresion against other countries, as well as, our Cuban concentration camp and global, torture centers, and!, costly, space adventures, we could channel these saving to; SOCIAL SERVICES for The People!

ps; 15 MILLION DOLLARS A DAY, to israel!

[HAZ]

name='VegasJim' date='April 27 2010 - 07:16 AM' timestamp='1272312978' post='277030']
HAZ,

"Honor"? That's what we're calling labeling someone as either a member of or an intellectual ally with the KKK? Strange definition, that, for it seems to fall directly and more appropriately under the label you used in your opening post, viz. slander. The truly sad part is that krash is about the furthest thing from a supporter or member of KKK that I could possibly imagine - something you'd know if you could see past your blind partisan rage and view him for who he is individually.

Look, not as a mod or admin, just as me personally, I have no idea where people like you get off doing something and then whining to high heaven that someone else responds in kind. It reminds me of a fight I saw when I was in 6th grade where a bully kept insulting some other kid's mother, pushing him, and eventually swatting the kid in the back of the head. When the bully finally got his nose broken by the "wimp," he went crying to the teachers as if he didn't have it coming. I'm not saying violence is ever right ... in fact I'll be explicit and say it never is. But when you provoke someone you must either expect a response or be delusional to think it won't come. You provoked krash, he responded, and now you don't like it. That's your cross to bear, however. TNET isn't going to get in the middle of a couple of guys who don't get along and are jawing back and forth.

Krash never broke any of the rules - and in this instance neither have you - thus I don't know what you expect us to do. Invent rules because you find yourself in the unenviable position of having received a response to your provocations? Not gonna happen. Ever. Deal with it. Or not. Your choice. Frankly no one cares.

Wow!, to slander, a brother, Teamster's children, break no T-net rules? We guess, ANYTHING goes? Moderator krash, should do the right thing, quit his moderator's responsibilies, and perhaps, seek anger, management counciling.

[krash]

I think it's you, who needs help. It's obvious by everyone you are delusional, and perhaps, medicated. Now repeating a lie over and over does not make it true. But keep posting the lie's if that what helps you get through your miserable day.