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[upstruth]

To my fellow Teamster 150 brothers and sisters,

Please take the time and register properly into this website.

Members should be able to seek the truth while using this website as the tool to get the truth we all deserve. We all pay dues to Local 150 and should be able to depend on our Secretary Treasurer to set the example of acting as a strong labor leader. When our Secretary Treasurer performs acts that are unbecoming of a labor leader he or she must be held accountable. We as members should have pride in our Local, that pride is not there with Jim Tobin as our leader. With the many comments that are made on this topic it is very clear that he must be removed as the Secretary Treasurer. He is no diffrent than the other Secretary Treasurers that let there power and influence gain sexual favors which is disgraceful in any working environment. He has put our dues money in jeopardy and shows no concern towards the membership who has to fit the bill for his legal expenses if that is the case. Dues money is needed to defend the members from employers and sometimes for the same acts that he is accused of in the "members" Teamster office. If you are a Teamster member call the office and tell Jim to use his own money not our dues money. We didn't make him sexually harrass an office girl, we didn't make him create a hostile work environment. If there are 150 agents that support Jim and his actions you really are as guilty as he is and will be held accountable in due time. There are questions asked about our agent John Conley, nobody seems to know what happened to him. And yes, how did we get a freight agent instead of one of are own UPS members members to be an agent. There are a lot of unanswered questions out there, we can only assume that Jim likes it that way. He needs to go and go now!!!

[robertbruce93]

upstruth, on March 10 2010 - 07:24 PM, said:

To my fellow Teamster 150 brothers and sisters,

Please take the time and register properly into this website.

Members should be able to seek the truth while using this website as the tool to get the truth we all deserve. We all pay dues to Local 150 and should be able to depend on our Secretary Treasurer to set the example of acting as a strong labor leader. When our Secretary Treasurer performs acts that are unbecoming of a labor leader he or she must be held accountable. We as members should have pride in our Local, that pride is not there with Jim Tobin as our leader. With the many comments that are made on this topic it is very clear that he must be removed as the Secretary Treasurer. He is no diffrent than the other Secretary Treasurers that let there power and influence gain sexual favors which is disgraceful in any working environment. He has put our dues money in jeopardy and shows no concern towards the membership who has to fit the bill for his legal expenses if that is the case. Dues money is needed to defend the members from employers and sometimes for the same acts that he is accused of in the "members" Teamster office. If you are a Teamster member call the office and tell Jim to use his own money not our dues money. We didn't make him sexually harrass an office girl, we didn't make him create a hostile work environment. If there are 150 agents that support Jim and his actions you really are as guilty as he is and will be held accountable in due time. There are questions asked about our agent John Conley, nobody seems to know what happened to him. And yes, how did we get a freight agent instead of one of are own UPS members members to be an agent. There are a lot of unanswered questions out there, we can only assume that Jim likes it that way. He needs to go and go now!!!

I am not aware of this recent action against Jim Tobin. I am aware that I can read about the case on the court's website, but for the moment I choose not to. The reason is that many people, including women, look for opportunity to benefit from a lawsuit. they look for an opportunity to present itself. Until Jim Tobin is found guilty, or a verdict is found against him, then in my eyes he is innocent until proven guilty. Just like all of us are when accused of a wrong. Anyone can file a lawsuit.. that means nothing. Sadly in California, sexual harrassment does not take much to prove, and most accused men end up settling even though they committed no wrong.

As for me, Jim Tobin and Local 150 has consistently gone to great lengths to right an injustice. Including when I was accused by UPS for something that I hadn't done. Jim Tobin and Local 150 paid for the attorney, and fought aggressively to overturn a wrongful discharge and I was even awarded a full year of back pay. Again, I am up against the monster UPS legal team, and again Jim Tobin and Local 150 have authorized my legal defense. Whatever Jim Tobin may be involved in at the Local 150, it hasn't tainted his ability to make proper decisions for his members.

I stand behind him.

[Angry Teamster]

robertbruce93, on March 10 2010 - 09:08 PM, said:

I am not aware of this recent action against Jim Tobin. I am aware that I can read about the case on the court's website, but for the moment I choose not to. The reason is that many people, including women, look for opportunity to benefit from a lawsuit. they look for an opportunity to present itself. Until Jim Tobin is found guilty, or a verdict is found against him, then in my eyes he is innocent until proven guilty. Just like all of us are when accused of a wrong. Anyone can file a lawsuit.. that means nothing. Sadly in California, sexual harrassment does not take much to prove, and most accused men end up settling even though they committed no wrong.

As for me, Jim Tobin and Local 150 has consistently gone to great lengths to right an injustice. Including when I was accused by UPS for something that I hadn't done. Jim Tobin representand Local 150 paid for the attorney, and fought aggressively to overturn a wrongful discharge and I was even awarded a full year of back pay. Again, I am up against the monster UPS legal team, and again Jim Tobin and Local 150 have authorized my legal defense. Whatever Jim Tobin may be involved in at the Local 150, it hasn't tainted his ability to make proper decisions for his members.

I stand behind him.

Read all the comments brother, then read the lawsuit, then read the comments again. Then you tell me about this man that calls himself a leader, an affair with Kim H, Teamster Blue Corvette, replacing experienced agents with non-UPS agents, I'm guessing your case was won by John Conley, who is no longer our agent. Jim replaced him with Mr. Inexperienced. You are right you are innocent until proven guilty, but he looks pretty damn guilty to me, but then again I don't have my head buried in the sand.

I dont stand behind him.

[sadjjjjer]

Angry Teamster, on March 10 2010 - 09:38 PM, said:

Read all the comments brother, then read the lawsuit, then read the comments again. Then you tell me about this man that calls himself a leader, an affair with Kim H, Teamster Blue Corvette, replacing experienced agents with non-UPS agents, I'm guessing your case was won by John Conley, who is no longer our agent. Jim replaced him with Mr. Inexperienced. You are right you are innocent until proven guilty, but he looks pretty damn guilty to me, but then again I don't have my head buried in the sand.

I dont stand behind him.

This guy and Dale Robbins must have attended a Jim Santangelo training session, the kind that doesn't charge the 500 thousand dollar fee until the lawsuit is meritoriously filed. Wonder if they had hidden cameras going too, or if they were horsecocks like Jim claimed he was-supposedly proven/captured for posterity on film.

[Just the Facts]

concerned 150 ups member, on March 08 2010 - 08:11 PM, said:

Did my agent Conley get laid off or did he get fired? And how does Jim Tobin have that power to do this?

Conley could not be fired, he was elected. If you want to know why he left, why don't you ask him or maybe your agent. Or would you rather bad mouth Tobin without any facts to support your position like several others here with some sort of axe to grind.

[Just the Facts]

upstruth, on March 04 2010 - 08:57 PM, said:

I went to Sac County courts online and read the lawsuit and I got to tell you that if Jim did this he needs to be removed from his position as Secretary Treasurer !! It also says that he is creating a hostile work enviroment, the very thing we depend on our business agent to fight against he is violating himself. I still haven't seen our new agent yet, guess Jim doesn't tell him to visit our facility. We need better representation we pay dues money and deserve a good business agent. Sorry but when there's smoke there's fire, Jim you should quit, sounds like you need to retire NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You read the law suit. BFD That does not mean he's guilty. Heard that the person suing was a lazy ass looking for a pay day.

[jd 150]

robertbruce93, on March 10 2010 - 09:08 PM, said:

I am not aware of this recent action against Jim Tobin. I am aware that I can read about the case on the court's website, but for the moment I choose not to. The reason is that many people, including women, look for opportunity to benefit from a lawsuit. they look for an opportunity to present itself. Until Jim Tobin is found guilty, or a verdict is found against him, then in my eyes he is innocent until proven guilty. Just like all of us are when accused of a wrong. Anyone can file a lawsuit.. that means nothing. Sadly in California, sexual harrassment does not take much to prove, and most accused men end up settling even though they committed no wrong.

As for me, Jim Tobin and Local 150 has consistently gone to great lengths to right an injustice. Including when I was accused by UPS for something that I hadn't done. Jim Tobin and Local 150 paid for the attorney, and fought aggressively to overturn a wrongful discharge and I was even awarded a full year of back pay. Again, I am up against the monster UPS legal team, and again Jim Tobin and Local 150 have authorized my legal defense. Whatever Jim Tobin may be involved in at the Local 150, it hasn't tainted his ability to make proper decisions for his members.

I stand behind him.

[jd 150]

robertbruce: You response is reasonable considering what you have gone through to keep your job. However, it is somewhat ironic that you state that UPS fired you for something you didn't do, you used an attorney to get your job back, however you seem somewhat dismayed and skeptical that someone else can use the same opportunities as you, such as an attorney, and be telling the truth. Not sure how you would have felt had your fellow employees at UPS or your Busines Agent said "Oh UPS wouldn't fire anyone for something he didn't do", or if no one believed you.

Jim Tobin has already paid out $45,000 to a staffer a few years ago. Abusing his power of office to harass his employees is a very serious offense, legally and morally. He represents our Union to the community and our employers and he should be held to very high standards. Flashing pictures around of himself in bed with two women is disgusting and at the very least belittles the office he holds. There is no context in which this is acceptable.

For anyone who chooses to view the lawsuit you can do so at www.saccourt.com, click on view civil suits and put in the case number: 34-2009-00060500. You don't need to make a judgement, just be aware.

[sadjjjjer]

jd 150, on March 11 2010 - 11:52 AM, said:

Jim Tobin has already paid out $45,000 to a staffer a few years ago. Abusing his power of office to harass his employees is a very serious offense, legally and morally. He represents our Union to the community and our employers and he should be held to very high standards. Flashing pictures around of himself in bed with two women is disgusting and at the very least belittles the office he holds. There is no context in which this is acceptable.

Tobin is just a wannabe compared to 848's "Big" Jim. $45,000 is a mere pittance, especially to those who agreed to cover Jim for it, just like I read here about the sissys who were said to have done the same with 'lil Dale Robbins and "B" at 315.

[Just the Facts]

jd 150, on March 11 2010 - 11:52 AM, said:

robertbruce: You response is reasonable considering what you have gone through to keep your job. However, it is somewhat ironic that you state that UPS fired you for something you didn't do, you used an attorney to get your job back, however you seem somewhat dismayed and skeptical that someone else can use the same opportunities as you, such as an attorney, and be telling the truth. Not sure how you would have felt had your fellow employees at UPS or your Busines Agent said "Oh UPS wouldn't fire anyone for something he didn't do", or if no one believed you.

Jim Tobin has already paid out $45,000 to a staffer a few years ago. Abusing his power of office to harass his employees is a very serious offense, legally and morally. He represents our Union to the community and our employers and he should be held to very high standards. Flashing pictures around of himself in bed with two women is disgusting and at the very least belittles the office he holds. There is no context in which this is acceptable.

For anyone who chooses to view the lawsuit you can do so at www.saccourt.com, click on view civil suits and put in the case number: 34-2009-00060500. You don't need to make a judgement, just be aware.

I've seen several posts here claimimg a $45,000 pay out to a staffer. As my user name implies, I deal only in facts. I see no facts here on a supposed 45K pay out. Anybody got a link to prove this 45K pay out? If 45K was paid, ther's a paper trail somewhere. Show me.

[jd 150]

Just the Facts, on March 11 2010 - 02:55 PM, said:

I've seen several posts here claimimg a $45,000 pay out to a staffer. As my user name implies, I deal only in facts. I see no facts here on a supposed 45K pay out. Anybody got a link to prove this 45K pay out? If 45K was paid, ther's a paper trail somewhere. Show me.

Thats easy, look up the LM2 Report for Local 150 for the year 2006. Its right there

[Just the Facts]

jd 150, on March 11 2010 - 03:15 PM, said:

Thats easy, look up the LM2 Report for Local 150 for the year 2006. Its right there

You're right. I found it. But it doesn't say what it was for. It says settlement, but what for? Doesn't the E board have to approve payments?

[Old Timer 150]

Just the Facts, on March 11 2010 - 11:20 AM, said:

You read the law suit. BFD That does not mean he's guilty. Heard that the person suing was a lazy ass looking for a pay day.

Heard there is a lot of lazy ass Business Agents looking for an easy pay day.

[robertbruce93]

I can't help but notice that many of the posts on this topic, are being posted by new members that recently signed up just in the past few days. Also, many of these new accounts just all happen to have "150" in the screen name to indicate they are members of Local 150.

Perhaps I'm jumping to conclusions but, doesn't it seem odd so many members are voicing their opinion, yet some of them just signed up in the past few days, and they share a common screen name?? I am speculating just a bit, but it would almost appear that it's ONE person creating several screen names to give the appearance of MANY.


Just curious, but how many folks here found no fault with Former President Clinton and his sexual harrassment issues, and specifically the cigar and blue dress incident? Was this a forgiveable offense that was not a big deal for our former leader? Does anyone feel that our country's best interests were jeopardized by such lewd behaviour, or was this just another 'no big deal'?

Keep that in mind when accusing Jim Tobin of bad leadership based on a (so far) baseless accusation.

[Just the Facts]

Old Timer 150, on March 11 2010 - 08:18 PM, said:

Heard there is a lot of lazy ass Business Agents looking for an easy pay day.

Then you don't vote for them.

[West Coast]

Old Timer 150, on March 11 2010 - 08:18 PM, said:

Heard there is a lot of lazy ass Business Agents looking for an easy pay day.

Heard there are a lot of lazy ass members who don't vote.
(Course, its just something I heard, I don't KNOW shit. But I thought I'd post it on TNet anyway.)

[Old Timer 150]

West Coast, on March 12 2010 - 10:00 AM, said:

Heard there are a lot of lazy ass members who don't vote.
(Course, its just something I heard, I don't KNOW shit. But I thought I'd post it on TNet anyway.)

Sounds like you do know, sounds like you are one of those lazy ass business agents looking for a easy pay check. I figure there will be people lining up to take your lazy ass out, so keep talking, I like it!!

[West Coast]

Old Timer 150, on March 12 2010 - 03:29 PM, said:

Sounds like you do know, sounds like you are one of those lazy ass business agents looking for a easy pay check. I figure there will be people lining up to take your lazy ass out, so keep talking, I like it!!

I am not defending lazy business agents. If you know one & have some examples you KNOW happened, great! Post em and expose his/her lazy ass.
What I object to is posting "I heard this" or "I heard that ... " with no evidence or back up or facts.
That's for old ladies with nothing better to do gossiping about the other old lady down the block.

As for the Local 150 lawsuit against Tobin, I've met the guy once and have no idea if its true or not.
The point has already been made that anybody can file a lawsuit, even with little or no evidence. If they win the lawsuit, thats a different story.

[Angry Teamster]

Angry 150 member, on March 09 2010 - 08:36 PM, said:

RUN JIM RUN THE IRB IS COMING
RUN JIM RUN THE IRB IS COMING
YOUR AFFAIR WITH KIM H IS COMING BACK TO HAUNT YOU
RUN JIM RUN THE IRB IS COMIMG
IF YOU WANT TO KEEP YOUR PENSION TAKE YOUR FAT ASS HOME !!

Are they there yet? I think I hear them knocking. Beware to all they look into everything.

[TeamsterJustice]

I just read the lawsuit.

I would say if the other female co-workers who allegedly did sexual favors for Tobin were made to testify in court, it would still be very damaging to Tobin.

And it's a joke how part of his defense basically states that the plaintiff failed to use the grievance procedure and therefore the court is deprived of jurisdiction in this "matter".

It's also interesting that Tobin and the plaintiff are each using an attorney from the same law firm.

I wonder how many of Tobin's "buddies" at the Local 150 know about his bad behavior. I heard John Haas had dirt on Tobin, and this fits right in.

I think more Teamsters at UPS need to be aware of this Civil suit and should talk about it, and follow it as it progresses. After all, we are all paying Union dues and we should be informed on what our Local is up to, and why things are taking so long to get resolved around here.