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#21 Farley

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Posted November 24 2009 - 12:13 PM

going in circles?????? Elected officials are the reason that Unions have lost their bite? Brother, or Sister, you might want to look for the reason to blame in your own mirror. You fall prey to the toodleoo past time of blind criticism, and you do the work of the Heisler's anti-Union National Right to Work Committee or the anti-Union TDU for them. Maybe just maybe, you might think about writing to your senators and congressperson each and every week asking them to support EFCA, you might show up at Union meetings, you might sign up to be a volunteer organizer, you might actually join the Union when they call a job action on the picket line, in other words you might get off your lazy critical toodleoo ass and become a REAL Teamster member.

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Posted November 24 2009 - 09:16 PM

First, I thought the title of this thread was "TDU dead in Local 174", but this rocket scientist Farley crawled out from under a rock and is accusing this guy (Hobe Williams) and that guy (going in circles) of being the "evil nemesis" TDU. First of all, I received a mailer from that fraud Hobe at campaign time as he stated he no longer had any connection to TDU. Farley, speak on what you know, whatever that may be, but it certainly isn't about 174 and its issues. As far as your feeble , tired old line of attacking a member (going in circles) when they are critical of non union staff handling trucks as Teamsters stay home, all I can say is a loud resounding Shame on you! Farley, you are the stuff that is leading this union in entirely the wrong direction. First, you speak on something that you know nothing about and then criticize someone from an industry that is under attack when they say they aren't getting the help they need. You are worse than no help at all, you are the definition of the disease that currently afflicts the greatest union in the world.

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Posted November 25 2009 - 12:43 AM

View PostFarley, on November 24 2009 - 08:30 AM, said:

guest???? did you not understand that this string is about the right to work and their marriage to the GOP? It has nothing to do with JC 42, which has been addressed in several other strings. Whether you like or dislike Bergen has NOTHING to do with the GOP or Heisler's National Right to Work Committee.......however I stand by my statements in other strings regarding my admiration of Brother Bergen.


It's ok for the senile fagley to jump topics when it suits him, especially when he won't answer honestly about a sleazy maneuver by a scabby jc 42 eboard buddy of his.

You are right, Maximus, fagley is worse than no help at all, he is the definition of the disease that currently afflicts the greatest union in the world.

Santangelo, Cammack, Bergen, Lennox etc etc fagley. Bunch of con artists. Thank god at least fagley and Santangelo are gone, hopefully ball-less bergen soon to go too.

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Posted November 25 2009 - 12:58 PM

Lets bring this topic back on point....The fact is the membership of Local 174 (the ones that matter) clearly don't agree that Rick and his Agents aren't doing their job's. As a former member, I know for sure that members with a bitch about their Agent or the representation within their craft/industry know how to come to the Union meetings and eat some serious ass during "open mic". This is only one of a long list of reasons that make Local 174 and its membership top notch. I encourage any member with a bitch about their Agent or industry to deal with it head on. I know Rick will deal with it. Clearly the membership of 174 believes this. An individual member or "guest" on this site may feel differently. When you compare these complaints with the "campaign" literature of at least one of the slates that ran against Rick, it is clear this "guest" was one of the 180 or so that supported the "other guy" and not a voice for any one industry or craft. After all if all the construction and mixer drivers would have voted for Brett then he would have gotten more than 181 votes.

As a reminder "guest" LB was hired by TDUBob, kept by Scott Sullivan, kept by TDUDan, and kept by Rick in 2007 and it looks like he still works there. So did you like LB when he worked for TDUBob, didn't like him when he worked for Scott, liked him when he worked for TDUDan, and now you don't like him because he works for Rick? Was LB ok when Brett was a BA at 174? Something tells me you have a political ax to grind combined with just a hint of "sour grapes". Put together a credible Slate and try again in three (3) years.

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Posted November 26 2009 - 08:42 AM

anon "buck", ha ha ha, you called me fagley!!!! how original, how funny!. and as I stated before, I know and admire Mike Bergen and I have not commented on what happened at JC42 since I have no special knowledge. So unlike you, I usually comment on items within my experience, which includes that Mike Bergen is a stand up Teamster who I would trust to watch my back, make something more out of it if you want, but then that is exactly what your homie , eddie boy heisler does.
and "anon maximus" that name must be a latin adjective for just how misinformed you are. Hobie, the toodleooer of the year not associated with the toodleoo any more? Are you serious? the same Hobie that signed up many toodleoo members , whether they wanted to be members or not? but it still stands, if you want to be critical of the Local Union administration, at least get off your ass and participate instead of launching scuds from afar. it is fools like yourself that feed the anti-Union forces at the TDU, the right to work foundation, and the chamber of commerce.....maximus, if you want to see why Unions have been losing their clout, look in the mirror!

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Posted November 27 2009 - 08:54 PM

the complaint voiced by the brother "circles" is common out of the industry he/she works in. it makes me crazy angry to see the gypo trucks out working around king county when i know we have brothers at home wondering about how they are going to make ends meet. if larry boyd ever tells you EVER tells any member that he doesnt have the time to deal with an issue bring it directly to rick. call and leave a message on his voicemail if he is unavailable, he will get back to you. also you can contact any member of the executive board through the website, and they will ask the question of the BA and ST quickly.

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Posted November 30 2009 - 05:28 PM

In reply to HardCore, I too, have had the same experiences with this local, only with a different business agent. I have complained about supervision driving our trucks so that hourly wages would not have to be paid to Union members. I call to Rick Hicks did get a show of my business agent, for the first time after three years. We haven't seen him since. As to your advice of voting, let me say that I didn't vote to re-elect and I do show up for meetings and walk out with a severe case of nausea. I too received the pamphlet of Mr. Hicks boasting about how he has kept in contact with the Local members. Not on my end he hasn't and nor has he on works sites of many of my friends of many years. You seem to have a stockpile of mirrors to which you are advising people to take a look into. These must be part of the smoke and mirrors that Local has been using for years. Face it, they don't care about the members or that their jobs are being filled by those not only non-qualified, but non-union as well. It would seem that the only jobs they are concerned with are their own.

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Posted December 06 2009 - 11:05 AM

the election results are in for the Local up in Spokane, and the toodleoo was again rejected by a large margin. This Local Union was bankrupted by the toodleoo and their mismanagement almost twenty years ago. The debt the toodleoo generated was only paid off a few years ago, and the members did not want to subject their Local to another toodleoo disaster. CONGRATULATIONS are in order to those that not only repaired the damage, but negotiated great contracts, organize new units, and generate a grievance record second to no one.

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Posted December 06 2009 - 11:20 AM

View PostFarley, on December 06 2009 - 11:05 AM, said:

the election results are in for the Local up in Spokane, and the toodleoo was again rejected by a large margin. This Local Union was bankrupted by the toodleoo and their mismanagement almost twenty years ago. The debt the toodleoo generated was only paid off a few years ago, and the members did not want to subject their Local to another toodleoo disaster. CONGRATULATIONS are in order to those that not only repaired the damage, but negotiated great contracts, organize new units, and generate a grievance record second to no one.



Its good to see that Washington teamsters know the difference between rhetoric and leadership. As I'm not a member in Spokane, I hope they made the right choice to maintain their current leadership. 174 teamsters have always shown love to our brothers and sisters on the other side of the mountain. Congratulations tried and true Performance Team.

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Posted December 11 2009 - 02:22 AM

View PostFarley, on December 06 2009 - 11:05 AM, said:

the election results are in for the Local up in Spokane, and the toodleoo was again rejected by a large margin. This Local Union was bankrupted by the toodleoo and their mismanagement almost twenty years ago. The debt the toodleoo generated was only paid off a few years ago, and the members did not want to subject their Local to another toodleoo disaster. CONGRATULATIONS are in order to those that not only repaired the damage, but negotiated great contracts, organize new units, and generate a grievance record second to no one.

First off, my congratulations to Rick and company for their win, and good luck in your upcoming term in office. It is good to see folks be able to run and win by the members choice.
Secondly, Eric, I have to wonder where you get the idea that anyone who would dare oppose an administration and run against them is automatically TDU! I have seen you pull this out of your hat over the years, whether or not the people who stood up to try and make a change had anything to do with them or not. Because YOU say so, then all are supposed to believe it to be true...............
It is also apparent that according to you, the only way to win a campaign is to smear peoples family issues on the internet and go to great lengths to slander them without any proof of what you are posting. I had always thought the better of you but anymore I find the things I used to defend you from are coming out as the truth. Very sad indeed.
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Posted December 11 2009 - 04:47 PM

Saddletramp:

See if you can get a straight answer from Bob who sponsored the domain for their web-site. If you can, check it out, if you can't which you won't second guess your opinion about "if" TDU backed Bob and his slate.

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Posted December 11 2009 - 04:58 PM

SaddleTramp, you are not TDU? Who are you trying to BS? Your campaign manager spent years outside of union meetings passing out Convoy Dispatch, and even wore a local 206 jacket instead of a local 690 jacket. SaddleTramp, you would have been more credible if your material was honest, and you didn't try to cover up the TDU nature of your campaign. You are definitely not the one to take over, and your associations and lack of truth prove it. Too bad that your blind ambition took others down with you.

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Posted December 12 2009 - 03:57 AM

View Postare you serious, on December 11 2009 - 04:58 PM, said:

SaddleTramp, you are not TDU? Who are you trying to BS? Your campaign manager spent years outside of union meetings passing out Convoy Dispatch, and even wore a local 206 jacket instead of a local 690 jacket. SaddleTramp, you would have been more credible if your material was honest, and you didn't try to cover up the TDU nature of your campaign. You are definitely not the one to take over, and your associations and lack of truth prove it. Too bad that your blind ambition took others down with you.

Gee Eric, dont want to post under your screen name so you post as a guest? Why not bring out the proof you have that I and my fellow candidates where all members of TDU. You dont even know some of the people who ran so what makes you think you have all of us "figured out"?
Like I said before, anyone who dares to have a differance of opinion and want to bring change about for the members is automatically branded TDU with you and your cronies. The censoring of opinions and different ideas went away with Hitler and Stalin, and maybe you should try to let yourself believe people can have a differance of thought and not be drinking the TDU koolaid like you would have everyone believe.
The man you want to chastise was not a campaign manager, as we didnt have one. There was no blind ambition as you want everybody to believe; we went into this eyes wide open, wanting to bring change where change was needed, and there is plenty of that which needs to be! So I will ask you again, if you have the proof of the so called TDU alliance, then PROOVE it, show us the facts, or drop your bullshit once and for all.
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Posted December 12 2009 - 09:57 AM

well Bob, it looks like I am not the only one that has your number and sees through your crap. I counted you as a friend for many years, and was saddened when I heard the game you were playing, and who you were playing it with. Do you honestly believe that I am the only one that observed your inappropriate activity in the office, or that I was the only one that saw Convoy being handed out at Union meetings? Bob, you may be able to bullshit people that do not know you, but don't try it with people familiar with you, it just makes you look even more dishonest. I am truly sorry that you took a wrong turn since, at one time, you seemed to have the interest of the Local at heart, and it was a disappointment to learn that it was all a facade, and a real tragedy considering the people that went down when your ship sunk.

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Posted December 12 2009 - 04:49 PM

You should get a job writing for the movies Eric, that would be a real epic you just shoved out there! Still no report on the so called alliance with TDU................

Hard to prove things that are not true huh. :-(
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Posted December 13 2009 - 02:30 PM

Bob-- you better stop sucking up to Tom Leaddumb! His lover Stefan O. is getting jealous!

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Posted December 13 2009 - 06:55 PM

dream on Bob, there is plenty of evidence, but, do you really want your dirty laundry aired on the teamster.net? I, for one, will let it be that you ran a dishonest campaign, with dishonest campaign fliers, and had your campaign managed by the very same guy who handed out Convoy before meetings, and Bob, I was not the only one that saw it. However, the election is over, you lost, and I see no reason to line item your shortcomings, especially since you once were an integral part of the team that rescued Local 690 from their last fiasco from a toodleoo exec board.

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Posted December 13 2009 - 10:08 PM

View PostFarley, on December 13 2009 - 06:55 PM, said:

dream on Bob, there is plenty of evidence, but, do you really want your dirty laundry aired on the teamster.net? I, for one, will let it be that you ran a dishonest campaign, with dishonest campaign fliers, and had your campaign managed by the very same guy who handed out Convoy before meetings, and Bob, I was not the only one that saw it. However, the election is over, you lost, and I see no reason to line item your shortcomings, especially since you once were an integral part of the team that rescued Local 690 from their last fiasco from a toodleoo exec board.



don't put bobs dirty panties on t net ken paff will be upset

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Posted January 04 2010 - 05:14 AM

Let me assure you, I didn't vote fore Rick Hicks or that lazy worthless business agent Tom George who couldn't get off his ass to pull a fire alarm. And yet Mr. Hicks continues to send out mailing boasting his continued connection with members on the job sites. LIAR! You and your business agents have done nothing but take our money. Meanwhile you slide your little buddies into the workplace at Merlino. Fuck you Rick.

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Posted January 04 2010 - 07:32 PM

View Postgoing in circles, on January 04 2010 - 05:14 AM, said:

Let me assure you, I didn't vote fore Rick Hicks or that lazy worthless business agent Tom George who couldn't get off his ass to pull a fire alarm. And yet Mr. Hicks continues to send out mailing boasting his continued connection with members on the job sites. LIAR! You and your business agents have done nothing but take our money. Meanwhile you slide your little buddies into the workplace at Merlino. Fuck you Rick.


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