Prime Minister Maliki has made no secret over the fact that, wheather personally or bending to the will of his people, as well as other Governments in the Mid East.. wants American troops off Iraqi soil and allow Iraqis to get down to their own "business"!...Iraqi business NOT American business!
What we have, ONCE AGAIN, is a "nation building" effort at the highest possible cost...over 4,00 dead American soldiers and over 10 billion dollars a month...that has failed!!
One hates to think just what kind of deal Bush had to cut with Maliki , to stave off the draw down of troops untill well after our upcomming elections! Keeping in mind Bush can make about any deal he wants to with Iraq..The Republican majority in the House and Senate gave him that right shortly after 9/11!!
McCain/Palin..not to worry, one will fight like hell to make the Bush tax cuts permanent for the rich, the other will fight like hell to do away with abortion..as to the latter..no wonder...if you kill'm before they are born they'll never grow up to fight and die for your rich ass!!
I dedicate this post to ALL the victims of 9/11 and the troops that have died in Iraq!
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Posted September 10 2008 - 07:13 AM
When Bush stood on the aircraft carrier and declared victory, he was correct, our troops had won the war, but you cannot win the occupation that followed, or any occupation for that matter. We won, even though we should have never been there, and after we won we should have left.
I aggree with Vincent Bugliosi, Bush and his enablers should be tried for capital murder of our troops, and the government should be responsible for the care of our returning vets including mental disorders, something McLame has voted AGAINST over 10 times.
I aggree with Vincent Bugliosi, Bush and his enablers should be tried for capital murder of our troops, and the government should be responsible for the care of our returning vets including mental disorders, something McLame has voted AGAINST over 10 times.
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Posted September 12 2008 - 12:24 PM
"Prime Minister Maliki has made no secret over the fact that, wheather personally or bending to the will of his people, as well as other Governments in the Mid East"
"bending to the will of the people"! What a unique concept! Has a nice ring to it, don't you think? Wish we had a government like that. We do not even have a government that will listen to us, much less, bend to our will.
Most Americans are against these wars. If America is a representive form of government, then why are those Americans who oppose these wars not being represented? Why is this government willing to yeald to scumbag groups like the PNAC but not the American people? Where are the checks and balances that were to ensure equal representation?
Those who oppose war cannot turn to the Republican party, neither can they turn to the democratic party. We only have one party in America, the war party. This is crazy! There is little difference on core issues between the Dems and Reps such as war, immigration, taxes, globalism. We no longer have a representive form of government in this country. Only when Americans wake up to this fact, can something be done about it.
"bending to the will of the people"! What a unique concept! Has a nice ring to it, don't you think? Wish we had a government like that. We do not even have a government that will listen to us, much less, bend to our will.
Most Americans are against these wars. If America is a representive form of government, then why are those Americans who oppose these wars not being represented? Why is this government willing to yeald to scumbag groups like the PNAC but not the American people? Where are the checks and balances that were to ensure equal representation?
Those who oppose war cannot turn to the Republican party, neither can they turn to the democratic party. We only have one party in America, the war party. This is crazy! There is little difference on core issues between the Dems and Reps such as war, immigration, taxes, globalism. We no longer have a representive form of government in this country. Only when Americans wake up to this fact, can something be done about it.
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Posted September 13 2008 - 03:02 AM
I'm not always pleased by what the Democrats do..When Nancy Pelosi refused to allow John Conyers (D. Ohio) to go after voter fraud, she made a big mistake. The same was true of war profiteering, and a full blown investigation of how the Bush Administration did indeed lie in order to go to war with Iraq.
To a large extent SHE as Speaker of the House should have known that the change in the majority from Republican to Democrat in the House was because the American people were mad as hell over these issues and expected the Democrats to get to the bottom of all this fraud and abuse! When she failed to do this she let the voters down..thus the low "approval" ratings in the Congress..and this may very well be the place where the Presidental election is lost for the Democrats.
However, when it comes to the core issue of which Party can be better trusted with the futre of the middle class...try and watch c-span's live coverage of the House..and then you can get a clear picture of who's for you and who's against you....and see for yourself the BIG difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
As to us having a "war party" well the party's over...and it's Maliki..not us rough tough gun slinging brave Americans that is calling the shots!
To a large extent SHE as Speaker of the House should have known that the change in the majority from Republican to Democrat in the House was because the American people were mad as hell over these issues and expected the Democrats to get to the bottom of all this fraud and abuse! When she failed to do this she let the voters down..thus the low "approval" ratings in the Congress..and this may very well be the place where the Presidental election is lost for the Democrats.
However, when it comes to the core issue of which Party can be better trusted with the futre of the middle class...try and watch c-span's live coverage of the House..and then you can get a clear picture of who's for you and who's against you....and see for yourself the BIG difference between the Republicans and the Democrats.
As to us having a "war party" well the party's over...and it's Maliki..not us rough tough gun slinging brave Americans that is calling the shots!
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Posted September 13 2008 - 05:47 AM
Nice read Stark.
I hope you are right about the war party being over.
I hope you are right about the war party being over.
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Posted September 14 2008 - 08:35 AM
Thanks jimbo...but, like I said before..watch as much "live coverage" of c-span as you can..rather than FOX, MSNBC or any other of the "sound bite media"..that do little more than compete with the National Enquirer! (and I'm not saying that's where YOU get your news from)
There is little doubt that Maliki will have more to do with getting our troops out of Iraq than Bush...but, beware..the COST of the war can go on for years beyond that, if Bush..backed up by the next Republican President has agreed to tie the American taxpayors via extended contracts with firms such as Haliburton to stay in Iraq and "rebuild" their country for them...at our expense!
No country is ever stronger than its economy...control the economy and you control the people..and if "civil unrest" gets in the way..in a "free society"... then you better get rid of its freedoms!
There is little doubt that Maliki will have more to do with getting our troops out of Iraq than Bush...but, beware..the COST of the war can go on for years beyond that, if Bush..backed up by the next Republican President has agreed to tie the American taxpayors via extended contracts with firms such as Haliburton to stay in Iraq and "rebuild" their country for them...at our expense!
No country is ever stronger than its economy...control the economy and you control the people..and if "civil unrest" gets in the way..in a "free society"... then you better get rid of its freedoms!
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Posted September 14 2008 - 03:10 PM
No doubt what you are saying is true Stark. It is important to know, Halliburton though it may serve to examplify profits from war, death, and misery, for many, it is not the source of the problem. Our problem is almost soul deep as a nation. Our congressmen and there buddies invest money in corporations such as Halliburton. They are not about to listen to the will of the people if it means a drop of their profits. Look at Vice president of the USA, Dick Chainey (former CEO of Halliburton) who has made hugh profits from investments in the likes of Halliburton. Apparently, as an elected US vice president, he has forgotten he swore to protect this nation. NOT Halliburton profits.
Until this country is willing to role up it's sleeves and do what is necessary to rid itself of the entire mindset of our leaders from this horrible, sub-human, idea of profiting from war, death, and misery, it's going to be SOS no matter what party wins an election.
Americans have been deluded into the idea they can simply kick back in their soft, comfortable, recliners in front of TV sets and just, "vote out" evil. It should be obvious to everyone by now (but it's not) that voting alone will not get rid of evil.
Until this country is willing to role up it's sleeves and do what is necessary to rid itself of the entire mindset of our leaders from this horrible, sub-human, idea of profiting from war, death, and misery, it's going to be SOS no matter what party wins an election.
Americans have been deluded into the idea they can simply kick back in their soft, comfortable, recliners in front of TV sets and just, "vote out" evil. It should be obvious to everyone by now (but it's not) that voting alone will not get rid of evil.
