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#1 ibter

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Posted March 18 2007 - 01:49 PM

In what appears to be the final call, the IBT & SEIU agreed to cut the Teamsters building staff from 20 to 11, expand the work day from 7 hours (35 per week) to 8 1/2 with unpaid lunch time (40 hours per week) and a 5 year wage freeze.
Thats right a 5 year wage freeze.

The IBT now expects 11 people to do the work once done by 20.
Had the IBT employees and SEIU members not agreed to such , tha IBT and the SEIU had agreed to layoff all 20 and contract the work out to a private company Red Coat Cleaners. SEIU would then claim the new cleaners as members.

What a disgrace. Dont we (the Teamsters) advocate against this. Just another example of do as I say, not as I do.

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Posted March 18 2007 - 06:51 PM

Insiders report one man's grudge operation finds no bounds, even cleaners find themselves fair game, no one worthy of fair treatment, everyone circumspect in Paranoia Land of little men with big egos, no resumes, ax to grind. In land of election mandate, spy operation, dumpster diving, golf carting commie consultantville, anything can happen, will only get worse.



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Posted March 19 2007 - 03:59 AM

View Postibter, on Mar 18 2007, 01:49 PM, said:

In what appears to be the final call, the IBT & SEIU agreed to cut the Teamsters building staff from 20 to 11, expand the work day from 7 hours (35 per week) to 8 1/2 with unpaid lunch time (40 hours per week) and a 5 year wage freeze.
Thats right a 5 year wage freeze.

The IBT now expects 11 people to do the work once done by 20.
Had the IBT employees and SEIU members not agreed to such , tha IBT and the SEIU had agreed to layoff all 20 and contract the work out to a private company Red Coat Cleaners. SEIU would then claim the new cleaners as members.

What a disgrace. Dont we (the Teamsters) advocate against this. Just another example of do as I say, not as I do.
OK so when is Leo, Ed and crew going to take a five year wage freeze? This is a disgrace. When the general president and general secretary treasurer are getting new cadillac's and taking unheard of perks out of their jobs how could they condone anything like this? How about all of them taking a wage freeze? Somehow I don't think you'll ever see that happen.

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Posted March 19 2007 - 04:14 AM

Who knows what the deal really is but it seams like Stern owns Hoffa in the "change to win".

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Posted March 19 2007 - 08:50 AM

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Posted March 19 2007 - 09:02 AM

View Postbfdgunner, on Mar 19 2007, 08:50 AM, said:

As usual, you boneheads would rather waste members dues money than actually build a labor movement. You know as well as anybody that the cleaning crew has been too big for years. Nobody got fired, some people retired, some people took buyouts. Why should the members pay for 20 people when it only takes 11? The average commercial janitor in DC earns about 8.50 an hour. The average wage for janitors at union's in DC is 12.50 and hour. The Teamsters pays the highest wages - $17.50 an hour. How is that screwing the workers?

For the Right To Work folks who monitor these boards, IBTer just gave you another hit piece with no merit. But we know that won't stop you or them from doing everything you can to destroy the labor movement.
with this type of logice what can the members expect when their bosses say teamsters wages are the highest in the industry and they want to cut them back just like the teamsters did at their headquarters? can you spell hypocrite? It is screwing the workers by taking away negotiated pay through back door deals with their union just like the elimination of the meal allowance for the field staff. How would you like it if you just got a cut in your contractor fees and told that your invoicing is too high and the union is not going to pay it anymore? Wouldn't like it would you? So why should the workers like it?

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Posted March 19 2007 - 10:14 AM

View PostBarking Dog, on Mar 19 2007, 10:02 AM, said:

with this type of logice what can the members expect when their bosses say teamsters wages are the highest in the industry and they want to cut them back just like the teamsters did at their headquarters? can you spell hypocrite? It is screwing the workers by taking away negotiated pay through back door deals with their union just like the elimination of the meal allowance for the field staff. How would you like it if you just got a cut in your contractor fees and told that your invoicing is too high and the union is not going to pay it anymore? Wouldn't like it would you? So why should the workers like it?

Yeah, not only can I spell hypocrite-- I can see it here daily on T-Net with all you anti-Teamster crybabies!

GrimJimmySissy, ScatCat, Rayne, FibneaHB, and the rest of you non-Teamster OPEIU incessant crybabies and whiners have been attacking the IBT for over a year now as being "too purple" and dominated by SEIU and Stern, etc., etc., ad nauseum. Now when a few SEIU get let go, you attack the IBT for it. It's just more of your TDU style hyperbole, hubris and hypocrisy!

Most of you people are not even dues paying Teamster Members. Yet you come on here almost daily, posting negative stuff about our Union, it's departments, it's efforts and our leaders. NEVER do you people post anything positive about our Union. Your consistent attacks on our Union are TDU like inspired lies meant to attempt to weaken our Union, create division and disunity, and to slow our Union's momentum and progress. Who's side you are on is clear.
Maybe you should be a little more honest about why you care so much about our Union, when most of you are not even Members, to come on here on a daily basis and try to trash it! Who's paying you to do the bidding of Corporate America and the bosses and continue to press your anti-Teamster, anti-Labor agenda?

You're the biggest HYPOCRITES in the world. You're the equivalent of hot steamy dog turds on a Brooklyn sidewalk on a warm Summer day, and most of us Teamsters have learned to just step around you on T-net. You can all go fuck yourselves, for you anti-Teamster douche bags are the biggest HYPOCRITES of all!



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