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#1 Local_Organizer

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Posted October 17 2006 - 01:19 PM

Van Skillman and Danny Eason are the self-declared officers of the APWA. Tom Coleman, Esq., is APWA's lawyer... But Coleman is much more than that. Here are a few things you should know about Francis "Tom" Coleman. Coleman is a partner in the Labor and Employment Law Section of Williams Mullen law firm in their Washington DC office. According to its web site, (www.williamsmullen.com) the firm helps employers:

- Defeat union organizing attempts for clients in major manufacturing sectors such as steel, paper, health care, printing, construction, and mining.

- Decertify unions (geeze, that's a familiar one)

- Train all levels of management in union avoidance (union busting)

Coleman is a member of the labor Lawyer's Advisory Committee and was the past chairman of a group called Cuncil for a Union-Free Environment (CUE). is this who you want advising the officers of an association that claims to be "SOLELY and EXCLUSIVELY for the benefit of any UPS employee? Francis T. Coleman has written two anti-union books that threaten the future of any and all unions. They are:

The De-Unionizing Handbook & Becoming Union Free.

WHO is APWA?
The two bozos, Skillman and Eason are employees at UPS in NC. Coleman is the attorney

WHERE is APWA?
is it at:
The home of Van Skillman in NC?
PO Box 58427
Raleigh, NC 27658

Williams Mullen Law Firm at
1666 K Street
Washington, DC ?

Or the state of Deleware, where APWA is registered as a non-profit organization?

WHAT is APWA?
According to the US Department of Labor, APWA is NOT a registered labor union. As of August 1st 2006, the Department of Labor has not received any application, paperwork from the APWA, Tom Colman Esq., Danny Eason, or Van Skillman.


APWA says that no one will ever be thrown out of any of their meetings for asking "a hard question that we don't want to answer". I challenge any of you to ask the following if you ever piss away you free time and actually attend one of these meetings:

1. Can I see you Bylaws and Constitution?
2. I see that you are registered as a non-profit. Can you show us your IRS tax filing, specifically the Form-990 which is required by 501 © (5) organizations that have over $25,000 income.
3. Why are you incorporated in Deleware. rather than North Carolina, where your mailing address is listed?
4. Does the APWA operate out of any offices in North Carolina where its mailing address is listed on its website and its two officers live?
5. Why does the IRS record your address at 1666 K Street in Washington DC? (Coleman's Law Firm)
6. How many members does APWA have?
7. Why hasn't APWA filed any registration forms as a labor organization with the departmrnt of labor?
8. Who are other officers / staff of APWA?
9. Have any of the officers of APWA ever negotiated a union contract?
10. Have any of the officers of APWA ever represented union members (i.e., as shop stewards etc.?)
11. Does APWA employ any staffers who are experienced in representing union members, as opposed to its attorney, who has expertise in union busting?

Think about it folks.... The Teamsters is 1.4 million strong, let's send the message that we care bout "our" union and its future. Let's dump these bozos and become more involved with our Teamster Locals and don't forget to vote for IBT officers, you should all have your ballots by now.

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Posted October 17 2006 - 03:12 PM

:sad: We have heard that they are a front for the company, so they can get control of the pension money and take power away from the Teamsters. They are not good for UPS, yet they seem to allow them liberties to contact employees. This is something that needs to be addressed before we all have to hear and see the excuses of why UPS is no longer Teamsters. :smile: APWA NOT GOOD!! TEAMSTERS, ILWU GOOD!! Shout out to all you clerks who keep the containers accounted for. APWA is not a union!!!
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Posted October 21 2006 - 06:03 PM

Local_Organizer said:

But Coleman is much more than that. Here are a few things you should know about Francis "Tom" Coleman. Coleman is a partner in the Labor and Employment Law Section of Williams Mullen law firm in their Washington DC office. According to its web site, (www.williamsmullen.com) the firm helps employers:
- Defeat union organizing attempts for clients in major manufacturing sectors such as steel, paper, health care, printing, construction, and mining.
- Decertify unions (geeze, that's a familiar one)
- Train all levels of management in union avoidance (union busting)

Coleman is a member of the labor Lawyer's Advisory Committee and was the past chairman of a group called Cuncil for a Union-Free Environment (CUE). is this who you want advising the officers of an association that claims to be "SOLELY and EXCLUSIVELY for the benefit of any UPS employee? Francis T. Coleman has written two anti-union books that threaten the future of any and all unions.
See number 11.


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WHO is APWA?
WHERE is APWA?
In solid command of 70 percent of vote in 22 states. Active campaigns in 7 other states in addition. Extensive contact lists in the remainder of the states. And from the length of the talking points that you are working off of, we are also in your nightmares.
1. Can I see your Bylaws and Constitution?
APWA has nothing to hide, as opposed to IBT who has to be forced by lawsuits and federal judges to produce documents. The bylaws and constitution were submitted during the incorporation process in Delaware and are available for viewing upon request from the Delaware incorporation division. In addition, Danny or Van would be happy to personally go over these documents with you in person at a meeting. Feel free to contact them for further question. However, a point of interest here. I asked Eason once how often people want to see these documents, and his answer was that in the two years they have been traveling and talking to people, these documents were requested once. And when you do read these documents, you'll see how member oversight, transparency and integrity influenced every article and bylaw.

2. I see that you are registered as a non-profit. Can you show us your IRS tax filing, specifically the Form-990 which is required by 501 © (5) organizations that have over $25,000 income. The answer is pretty simple. After review by the CPA’s, a tax return was not necessary. But if you don’t believe that, feel free to file a Form 4506-A with the IRS and see what their reply is.

3. Why are you incorporated in Deleware. rather than North Carolina, where your mailing address is listed?
According to the state of Delaware's incorporation website.....

More than half a million business entities have their legal home in Delaware including more than 50% of all U.S. publicly-traded companies and 60% of the Fortune 500. Businesses choose Delaware because we provide a complete package of incorporation services including modern and flexible corporate laws, our highly-respected Court of Chancery, a business-friendly State Government, and the customer service oriented Staff of the Delaware Division of Corporations.

Now, why is this a problem again? If Delaware is good for 60% of the Fortune 500 companies, then its good enough for the APWA and the UPS employees they intend to represent.

4. Does the APWA operate out of any offices in North Carolina where its mailing address is listed on its website and its two officers live?I assume you’re asking whether APWA operates at locations other than its mailing address and officers residencies. I guess the answer to that is yes. APWA operates in every state, home, and workplace in the 50 states where its members, lawyers, and officers are telling people the good news that there is a better option to union representation.
5. Why does the IRS record your address at 1666 K Street in Washington DC? (Coleman's Law Firm)
The legal firm that completes the application supplies their address.
6. How many members does APWA have?
Supplying specifics on the membership gives Teamsters (you) information to target and intimidate/threaten the people who are either interested in hearing about the APWA or are actively supporting the effort as members. But you get a good idea of how big the movement is from the above information.
7. According to the US Department of Labor, APWA is NOT a registered labor union. As of August 1st 2006, the Department of Labor has not received any application, paperwork from the APWA, Tom Colman Esq., Danny Eason, or Van Skillman. Why hasn't APWA filed any registration forms as a labor organization with the departmrnt of labor?
Unions are required to file with the Department of Labor within ninety (90) days of being recognized as the collective bargaining agent by the NLRB. This occurs only after winning the secret ballot election conducted by the NLRB. So, 90 days after APWA wins the NLRB election and IBT is decertified as the collective bargaining agent at UPS, check back with the Department of Labor. They will have the forms you’re looking for then.
8. Who are other officers / staff of APWA?
Almost half of the regional managers and vice presidents have been selected. Should these individuals be officially named into these positions, their ability to discuss issues with their co-workers would be limited by the NLRB. Now I'm sure you'd like that, wouldn't you. :?
9. Have any of the officers of APWA ever negotiated a union contract?Before Hoffa was president, his experience was working for employers. He was a pro-employer lawyer who had only negotiated contracts for employers. And once in office, he surrounded himself with lawyers who had previously negotiated union contracts. APWA will use this time-proven method of hiring experienced labor lawyers to negotiate contracts based on what the members want in their contract.
10. Have any of the officers of APWA ever represented union members (i.e., as shop stewards etc.?)In excess of 80% of the APWA officers have represented union members in the positions described above. The experience and ability to connect with the members is there.
11. Does APWA employ any staffers who are experienced in representing union members, as opposed to its attorney, who has expertise in union busting?
See number 10. The APWA legal team and their expertise reaches far beyond the services of Tom Coleman. Tom Coleman is all the things you described him as above. His career as a union busting lawyer been a successful one which is what scares and pisses you guys off at the IBT. However, Coleman’s sole purpose in the APWA campaign is to decerity the IBT as the UPS bargaining agent to be replaced by the APWA. Once APWA is successful, Coleman's relationship with the APWA will be over. With Tom Coleman no longer working for the APWA, the other seven or so lawyers spread from the East coast to the West coast in six different states and with long careers as pro-union legal counsel will take full responsibility for representing the APWA in legal matters. Tom Coleman is just the guy that gets to make the IBT’s life hell during the decert process.


And let me help clarify what you were trying to say there at the end, Local.

Local_Organizer said:

Think about it folks.... The Teamsters is 1.4 million strong(sucking the pockets of UPS members dry), let's send the message that we care bout "our" union(aka…our double pensions and exceedingly, gluttonous salaries) and its future. Let's dump these bozos(Eason and Skillman are really friggin scaring the sh** out of us so we need to call them clown names so we can sleep at night) and become more involved with our Teamster Locals(where you will promptly be told you are out of order if you disagree) and don't forget to vote for IBT officers(Hoffa’s gluttonous yes men at the trough), you should all have your ballots by now
USOMALOSI,,,explain to me how APWA isn't a union?

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Posted October 21 2006 - 11:59 PM

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In solid command of 70 percent of vote in 22 states. Active campaigns in 7 other states in addition. Extensive contact lists in the remainder of the states.
:? :roll: :roll: Uh, yea. Which scab are you? You dont have 70% of your fellow North Carolinians and dang sure dont have it in 22 states. I to believe your a front for the comapny too, and it's to bust the Union with the help of that union busting law firm of yours. What has UPS promised you afterwards? Do you also sale snake oil on the side?
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Posted October 22 2006 - 05:08 PM

View Postkrash, on Oct 22 2006, 05:59 PM, said:

:grin: :grin: :roll: Uh, yea. Which scab are you? You dont have 70% of your fellow North Carolinians and dang sure dont have it in 22 states. I to believe your a front for the comapny too, and it's to bust the Union with the help of that union busting law firm of yours. What has UPS promised you afterwards? Do you also sale snake oil on the side?
Sorry, no scabs here. Never crossed a strike line and never will. And no one in the company pocket. I just believe the UPS employee works too hard to be getting this pitiful service and poor results from our current union. They may have been what was best for us in the 80's and 90's, but IBT just isn't gettin the job done anymore. So continue with your character assasinations and whimsical jabs while we continue to debate the real topics that have true impact on our work and more importantly the ability to enjoy life away from work.

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Posted January 14 2007 - 08:35 PM

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In solid command of 70 percent of vote in 22 states. Active campaigns in 7 other states in addition.

Can you prove that?

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Posted January 19 2007 - 06:56 AM

I'll take that as a no.

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Posted January 19 2007 - 05:55 PM

View PostUPSGUY1973, on Jan 19 2007, 06:56 AM, said:

I'll take that as a no.
I beleve thats safe to say.
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Posted February 26 2007 - 07:14 PM

Still no answer?

No updates either. Weird. :razz:

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Posted March 02 2007 - 01:19 PM

View PostUPSGUY1973, on Feb 26 2007, 11:14 PM, said:

Still no answer?

No updates either. Weird. :grin:

Typical, this farce that mascarades itself as a union will make big promises, but runs with its tail between its legs once its asked to prove itself. I dunno about it having 70 percent support in 22 states either as where I work is not too far from NC and I work in the largest facility in our state and nobody I work with has heard of the APWA much less support them over the teamsters.

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Posted April 05 2007 - 07:44 PM

Still waiting.

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Posted April 06 2007 - 06:48 AM

Your answer will be in the NLRB petitions and the NLRB election. Be patient. It takes a while to get all those signatures.

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Posted April 06 2007 - 02:52 PM

View PostNospinzone, on Apr 7 2007, 12:48 AM, said:

Your answer will be in the NLRB petitions and the NLRB election. Be patient. It takes a while to get all those signatures.

Chesterton Holdings holds the domain for APWA. Just check out Googles search fot them. This should be enough!!

http://www.google.co...terton+Holdings

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Posted April 08 2007 - 07:45 PM

View PostNospinzone, on Apr 6 2007, 10:48 AM, said:

Your answer will be in the NLRB petitions and the NLRB election. Be patient. It takes a while to get all those signatures.
Thought you already had them allspinzone :sad:
You claimed 70% of the vote in 22 states.
Liar!! What other lies are being spread by your union busting outfit??
Should we start another list?
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