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#81 Shaman

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Posted October 09 2003 - 05:30 AM

Here´s a little something relevant to the current state of events here in California.

MAJORITY

Sometimes the majority
only means that
all the fools
are on the same side.

- Unknown

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Governor Cruz Bustamante, Teamsters Union Activists Charlie Engel, Art Fisher, Dave Godenez, Randy Olson and Ajmer and his Son Satinder. Satinder was a summer student intern in Tom Torlakson´s office.

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Posted October 09 2003 - 06:00 AM

A picture to reinforce your quote? Sorry Charlie you try to wrap yourself in the wrappings of these peace and servitude religions but I don´t see it.
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Posted October 09 2003 - 08:56 AM

I´m not looking for your approval. I´m not interested in being a leader. I´ll leave that up to others. I am a catalyst.

I´m in the process of wrapping up my workers´ compensation case. Whether it comes to a conclusion or not will be determined by your employer. Then I will be finished with my personal business with U.P.S. Again, it depends on whether U.P.S. is ready to let me go. They may want to dance some more. Dancing is good for me, a form of therapy, although I prefer to choose my partner. Then again, if I had my choice I would probably pick someone less challenging, someone easier to dance with. U.P.S. may be just the right partner! Easy isn´t always what´s best for us.

Would you have us believe that U.P.S. is a benevolent employer that makes the welfare of their employees the highest priority. The opposite is true. Your employer is a parasitic corporate goliath and you are a tentacle. U.P.S. has weakened laws protecting the safety of American workers. You do it for profit. Corporations will continue to weaken laws, killing and maiming their employees, to the extent that it is profitable to do so. Of course you would attack my character. The alternative would be to acknowledge that I am correct and look at yourself. You don´t want to do that, you´re not paid to. You can´t buy character and it doesn´t come with a title. Everyone chooses their role and what they are willing to reveal. Some do it with awareness and some don´t.

I´m not paid to post on Teamster.net. There is no reason to believe that I am. For better or worse (subjective calls) my character is not for sale. Can you say the same.? Either you are being paid for posting on Teamster.net or you are playing the role of UPSSup in your free time, time you could spend exploring your true nature. Do you believe that you are serving your true nature when you attack and ridicule individuals that are expressing their heart? Is that your role as a mentor? It´s your role on Teamster.net.

It appears that U.P.S. spends more in litigation with their employees that for community service. United Way is a form of extortion. Is this a good business decision?

Thank you for dancing with me. I´m learning some new steps and I find you to be an attractive partner.

Namaste

ps. Please note that I´m not making you wrong for being a tentacle of a parasitic corporate goliath. Someone has to be. Just don´t pretend to be playing a different role.


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Posted October 09 2003 - 10:21 AM

-Shaman-

Kind of ironic, don´t you think, that you call UPS a "parasitic corporate goliath", yet you´re the one trying to shake money out of them, not the reverse. Just what IS your definition of a parasite, anyway?

No one ever forced you to work at UPS. If you thought they were an unfair employer, then you should have left. If you thought the were an unsafe employer, then you should have gotten out of there for both your personal safety and the welfare of your family. And while you may not consider UPS a benevolent employer, you sure as Hell weren´t turning away there benevolence when it was offered you. Nor are you now, for that matter...in fact, you´re depending on it.

You´re bitter; I can understand that. You´re also seem to be pretty much out of your nut, which I don´t understand personally, yet can accept as a person´s condition....and a reason for that person´s not receiving the "attention" by his employer that - in his mind, at least - he thinks he deserves. So be it. But I don´t you should expect all the responses to your belly-aching to take the form of "sweetness and light". Yes, society has some obligation to the insane, but not to the extent of letting them run the asylum. Just ain´t gonna´ happen.

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Posted October 09 2003 - 10:34 AM

Dear scb:

I think we should get things back into context. You´re a little bitter about my recent repsponse to a message you posted elsewhere on this forum. I can understand that. You are a U.P.S. Supervisor. You may even be UPSSup.

Here´s your post and my response. The readers of this string can make up their minds for themselves.

ps. Thanks for the dance

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scb (a UPS Supervisor) writes:

May sound a bit trite, but I´d like to take a second to mention the "Circle of Honor" list as posted in USAToday, since nobody seems to have gotten around to mentioning it yet. I realize that a lot of people might consider it hokey and such, but the driving records accumulated by these UPS´ers over 25 years and more are something they should be very proud of; as an ex-manager and shareholder, I know I am of them....and would like to thank them for their efforts and skill demonstrated over the last quarter of a century (and more) and offer up my "congrats" on a job well done. Thanks guys. Also, it was nice to see so many names I´ve known over the years, even including one from Germany, being posted on the list. Question: although there were a couple of Germans included, I didn´t see any listed from Canada; since we´ve been in business there a bit longer than in Europe, I thought there might be a few. Did I miss something (it was a big list), or aren´t there any? In any case, thanks again gentlemen and ladies..... -scb-
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I respond:

I would also like to offer my congratulations to these drivers.

This would be an appropriate time to acknowledge the unrecognized drivers that have lost their jobs and possibly their families due to on the job accidents. Especially those drivers that have killed and maimed private citizens and coworkers in accidents related to excessive overtime and other, preventable, work related stress.

You have given your heart and soul to your employer and your employer has shown you the door. Hopefully you will be able to recover from your nervous breakdown before you loose your family. You didn´t make it to the circle of honor but I bet you were a loyal employee. Take care. I care.

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Posted October 09 2003 - 11:38 AM

"Kind of ironic, don´t you think, that you call UPS a "parasitic corporate goliath", yet you´re the one trying to shake money out of them, not the reverse. Just what IS your definition of a parasite, anyway?"

I would not consider someone to be a parasite if they have been instrumental in changing the work environment for tens of thousands of coworkers even if they made a million dollars. They would be a hero. Do you define a parasite as someone that earns wages and benefits? I define a parasite as something that takes more than it gives.
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"No one ever forced you to work at UPS. If you thought they were an unfair employer, then you should have left. If you thought the were an unsafe employer, then you should have gotten out of there for both your personal safety and the welfare of your family."

I had an excellent working relationship with my supervisor and manager. They had many qualities that I admired. Of course, there were exceptions. I dealt with safety issues while still employed by U.P.S. I don´t run away from problems.

I was a quiet employee. I was a shop steward for many years. I wasn´t made a steward by accident. The Union appointed by per their bylaws. I was the most qualified among my coworkers. It appears that I was too qualified. I pointed out problem areas. On occasion, I came under attack. I dealt with the attacks. I was expected to give up and quit, which I eventually did. I was fortunate to have a pension to fall back on. My pension wasn´t a gift. I earned it.
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"You´re bitter; I can understand that. You´re also seem to be pretty much out of your nut, which I don´t understand personally, yet can accept as a person´s condition....and a reason for that person´s not receiving the "attention" by his employer that - in his mind, at least - he thinks he deserves. So be it. But I don´t you should expect all the responses to your belly-aching to take the form of "sweetness and light". Yes, society has some obligation to the insane, but not to the extent of letting them run the asylum. Just ain´t gonna´ happen."

Again, I´m not bitter. I find this forum to be intellectually and emotionally stimulating. I´m not stooping to personal attacks. I am referring to you as a title rather than a whole person. That is what you are.

People have labeled things that they don´t understand or don´t want to understand as crazy since the beginning of time. It happens all the time in the Soviet Union. Dissidents are labeled deranged and sent to asylums. A dissident is someone that isn´t buying into the status quo. A dissident points out problems. An effective dissidents dissident doesn´t create them.

I think it´s unwise to exploit people and the environment for the sake of profit. I believe that treating the environment with respect and people with dignity is the sane and profitable way to go. Things won´t change until we can acknowledge what is wrong with the status quo. Perhaps this makes me different.

Your ramblings exhibit a degree of anger. I would be angry too if I were to follow your logic.
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Posted October 09 2003 - 11:40 AM

-Shaman-

Yep, seems like you´ve got it all worked-out correctly again [grin!]

Let´s sing it all together now...

"One toke over the line,
Sweet Jesus.
One toke over the line!"

-scb-

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Posted October 09 2003 - 04:37 PM

This Shaman is the perfect TDU´er. Crazy as a bedbug, a malcontent, a lawyer lover, a shit disturber and probably a communist.

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Posted October 09 2003 - 08:21 PM

"I would not consider someone to be a parasite if they have been instrumental in changing the work environment for tens of thousands of coworkers even if they made a million dollars. They would be a hero. Do you define a parasite as someone that earns wages and benefits? I define a parasite as something that takes more than it gives. "

Shaman would you agree that your certainly taking more than giving from UPS. After all we were nice enough to give you a superior paying job after your last company went out of business.

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Posted October 11 2003 - 10:53 PM


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08-10-2003 at 08:16, TA wrote:
Engaging in a tit for tat with shaman is like engaging in a pissing contest with a fire hydrant.

This guy obsessively abuses the computer, creating multiple websites with his negative badmouthing of individuals, Local Unions and their employees, companies, governments, courts etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

He seems to be a modern day Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde.

It´s amusing to read his posts. He is so out of touch with what he is really about that it´s scary. This is the kind of person that could be a serial criminal.

Shaman makes Ed Heisler look normal?
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Posted October 12 2003 - 05:36 AM

There certainly is something disturbing about watching shaman speak of religion as he succumbs to the evil within.
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Posted October 12 2003 - 06:04 AM

"I´m not looking for your approval. I´m not interested in being a leader. I´ll leave that up to others. I am a catalyst. "

Forgive me shamanguru for I do not understand how you differentiate a leader from a catalyst nor do I understand your motivation for shunning the leader role and accepting the catalyst role. It really seems to be a verbal effort to define yourself. Is this Shaman A or Shaman B speaking? Shaman B your spiritual side would have no problem with being defined a leader?

"I´m in the process of wrapping up my workers´ compensation case. Whether it comes to a conclusion or not will be determined by your employer. Then I will be finished with my personal business with U.P.S. Again, it depends on whether U.P.S. is ready to let me go. They may want to dance some more. Dancing is good for me, a form of therapy, although I prefer to choose my partner. Then again, if I had my choice I would probably pick someone less challenging, someone easier to dance with. U.P.S. may be just the right partner! Easy isn´t always what´s best for us."

Yes , Yes you love challenges and you love victory but you want us to believe you are a humble soul evolving into pure servitude. Charlatan should be your name.

"Would you have us believe that U.P.S. is a benevolent employer that makes the welfare of their employees the highest priority. The opposite is true. Your employer is a parasitic corporate goliath and you are a tentacle. U.P.S. has weakened laws protecting the safety of American workers. You do it for profit."

No I would never define UPS as a 100 percent benevolent employer that would make me an extremist just as defining ups as an evil parasitic corperation working only for profit would make me an extremist. The truth which you choose to ignore is somewhere in the middle. Someone who wants to compensate thier employees as well as they can without destroying thier bottom line. Truth is something you struggle with isn´t it SHAMAN?

"Corporations will continue to weaken laws, killing and maiming their employees, to the extent that it is profitable to do so. "

Another example of your extremist manipulation of the truth. Clearly corperations will feel they are overly regulated. Clearly they will always negotiate the most favorable business environment to work in. Also as clearly UPS does not want any of thier employees killed or maimed. As a tentacle of this corperation and a face to the faceless entity would you clearly expect people to believe that I would not do everything possible to keep my people from getting killed or maimed. You can´t seperate me from the corperation , I am the corperation.

"Of course you would attack my character. The alternative would be to acknowledge that I am correct and look at yourself. You don´t want to do that, you´re not paid to. You can´t buy character and it doesn´t come with a title. Everyone chooses their role and what they are willing to reveal. Some do it with awareness and some don´t."

Actually as anyone can see who is following this conversation your character cannot be atacked because it does not exist. Your religious mumbo jumbo is all an act , you deliberately misstate the truth. You swim in the sewers with the slimey ambulance chasing lawyers creating bs lawsuits. No sir while not an empire you are as close an example of the evil corperation as anyone will ever find. Your soul reeks of the hate and evil from hell. Your character is swiss cheese. You are a snake oil salesman reborn charlatan. Your the most evil of all evil forces the one who raps himself in religious cloth.

""I´m not paid to post on Teamster.net. There is no reason to believe that I am. For better or worse (subjective calls) my character is not for sale.""

No it cannot be for sale you sold it a long time ago.

Can you say the same.?

Absolutely while you can´t without telling more lies. How about another quote from mamma as we go ahead and seal your scam lawsuit.

""Either you are being paid for posting on Teamster.net or you are playing the role of UPSSup in your free time, time you could spend exploring your true nature."""

Unlike you I have not violated my characters. I can therefore sleep easily at night . I don´t have to justify my actions and look for solace as you do in the various religions. Your subconscious clearly knows your corrupt and has you on a journey looking for redemption.

""Do you believe that you are serving your true nature when you attack and ridicule individuals that are expressing their heart? Is that your role as a mentor? It´s your role on Teamster.net.""

Absolutely my true nature is honesty. I discuss your beliefs with respect in an attempt to see if your consistent. I fire off at the few idiots here that fire at me. Its an honest response something you will never understand. You and your religious mumbo jumbo are so full of shiit its dripping out of your ears. Care to share another quote from mother with us?

"It appears that U.P.S. spends more in litigation with their employees that for community service. United Way is a form of extortion. Is this a good business decision?""

How much do the spend for litigation compared to how much do they spend on community service. Its a no-brainer community service wins everytime. Why do you continue to expect credibility when you misstate the truth so much?

"ps. Please note that I´m not making you wrong for being a tentacle of a parasitic corporate goliath. Someone has to be. Just don´t pretend to be playing a different role. "

Its quite alright you can´t make me wrong as long as you sell your soul and speak relgion all at the same time. Its hilarious to watch you try to grab the moral high ground on this one. Absolutely hilarious.

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Posted October 13 2003 - 07:08 AM

"No sir while not an empire you are as close an example of the evil corperation as anyone will ever find. Your soul reeks of the hate and evil from hell. Your character is swiss cheese. You are a snake oil salesman reborn charlatan. Your the most evil of all evil forces the one who raps himself in religious cloth."

Can I interpret this as meaning that you are taking back all the nice things you said about me? You still have the option of changing your mind again.

The following material is quoted from my response to a recent examination by a qualified medical examiner.

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On page 2, paragraph 2, under HISTORY OF INJURY, you state; “He was a shop steward for many years but was removed from this office in 1996 when he filed a formal letter complaint with the National Labor Relations Board. He was removed and replaced as a shop steward by Ray Kindle who later had his own conflicts with Mr. Engel.”

I was a shop steward for approximately 20 years. I was removed from office as a shop steward after formally requesting and securing information that I was entitled to, as a Union Representative, under the National Labor Relations Act and the Teamsters Contract. Ray Kindle, a coworker with a documented history of deception and violence, replaced me. I sought and was awarded a restraining order prohibiting Ray Kindle from harassing me by the Superior Court of the State of California by and for the County of Contra Costa on June 20, 2000, one year before my current Workers’ Compensation Claim commenced. United Parcel Service refused to assist me in securing that protection. I represented myself as plaintiff against an attorney representing my Shop Steward, the defendant. I made an additional request for protection immediately following my most recent injury.

On page 2, paragraph 4, you state; “Because of his lack of funds, he wanted to return to work, but he needed changes to me made in his environment which he felt would be impossible for UPS to accommodate.”

I wanted to return to work as soon as possible, preferably before my State Disability funds ran out. It would not have been impossible for UPS to provide me with a safe work environment. I requested that UPS secure a restraining order against persons that had threatened me. This worked before. UPS ignored my request.

On page 4, under DEVELOPMENTAL HISTORY, you state; “He states he had a D average in high school.”

I was very bored in school. I took an aptitude test, when I applied for the Naval Air Reserve, immediately after graduating from High School. I had the highest test score out of approximately 200 or 300 recruits. My nickname was “Brain”.

On page 4, under OFF WORK ACTIVITIES, you state; “He also helps at a meditation center where he helps garden.”

I have been helping to coordinate drip irrigation installation at the M. A. (Mata Amritanandamayi or “Amma”) Center, in San Ramon, for approximately 10 years. Others and I have installed one or two miles of drip irrigation in the extensive gardens. I have been visiting nursing homes on a weekly basis with devotees of Amma, our spiritual teacher, for approximately seven years. I help arrange group visits. This is volunteer work.

Amma was honored with the Gandhi-King Award for Non-violence at The Global Peace Initiative of Women Spiritual and Religious Leaders Geneva, Switzerland Oct. 7, 2002. The prestigious Gandhi-King Award was presented to Sri. Mata Amritanandamayi by Jane Goodall at the United Nations General Assembly Hall.

I do photography and video shooting of political events to assist a friend of 38 years, Bob Swanson. Bob is constituent liaison for Nate Miley with the Alameda County Board of Supervisors. I have also worked with Bob in assisting the Hindu and Sikh communities for approximately ten years with political and religious freedom issues (you can read more on this in my RESUME).

I write short stories of a metaphysical nature.

On page 5, paragraph 3, under REVIEW OF MEDICAL RECORDS, you state; “Mr. Engel reports that he was subjected to a continuation of harassment and experiences daily insults from his manager. Harassment in the form of being sent home early so that after he did all the work of selling a car he would not receive any commission.”

I was never subjected to harassment by the supervision that I reported to after returning to work from my first injury. It appears that my first injury resulted in a change in departments and supervision. Linda Cullen, and Tony Steffinich were my Supervisors when I returned to work. We had a good working relationship and resolved problems without grievances being filed. I was never sent home early and I didn’t sell cars. There was no commission involved in my work. It appears that this refers to someone other than I.

On page 9, paragraph 1; you refer to the report by Carol Walser, psychologist, of April 18, 1997. In that report is was stated on page 13, under CONCLUSIONS OF CURENT PSYCHOLOGICAL STATUS; “Mr. Charles Engel appears to have experienced and continues to experience moderate anxiety and mild to moderate depression secondary to his difficulties at his workplace starting July 15, 1996. His current psychological complaints are listed under “Chief Complaints” and match how he appeared during the “Mental Status Exam” and on testing and seem to be a reliable account of his difficulties. Mr. Engel does not seem to be exaggerating his complaints, but rather he is likely minimizing them. There were no signs of malingering. Instead all psychological test results are consistent with his report and complaints, and a diagnosis of Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Depressive Disorder Not Otherwise Specified.”

On page 15 under WORK LIMITATIONS it is stated; “It is recommended that Mr. Engel not work under the supervision of the previous supervisors he believes treated him unfairly.”

On page 16, under ESTIMATE OF LOSS OF PRE-INJURY CAPACITY is stated; Prior to July 15, 1996, Mr. Engle was able to perform any and all of his work duties. At the current evaluation, Mr. Engel likely can and he also stated he believes he can eventually return to performing any and all of his prior work duties, but only in an area of the workplace in which he feels safe.”

On page 16, under CAUSE OF DISABILITY it is stated; “ The original cause of disability is considered to be having been threatened with termination at work for what the employee states as violating rules that his employer acknowledged he had no means of being aware of. This incident occurred at Mr. Engel’s workplace and is considered totally work related.”

On page 9, paragraph 3, of your report of 09-10-03, you quote Dr. Stanford as stating; “Mr. Engel’s worker’s compensation claim is, in my view, mainly a means for Mr. Engel to subsidize his variety of non-occupational activities rather than a means of managing a genuine psychiatric problem, whether industrial or non-industrial cause.” Please note that I was eligible for my pension at the time I filed my Workers’ Compensation case. I enjoyed my job and I did not want to be forced into retirement. I simply wanted UPS to address legitimate concerns for my safety, as validated in part by the Superior Court of the State of California in and for the County of Contra Costa, when the Court granted my request for a restraining order against Ray Kindle, an illegally appointed Shop Steward and Union representative.
On page 10, paragraph 4, you quote Dr. Stanford as stating; “Mr. Engel may be providing an accurate account of events, an account of events that is a combination of accuracy and distortion, or third a completely distorted account of events. I do not believe a physician is in a position to determine which of these apply.” In the event that you do agree with Dr. Stanford, this determination would also include you. That being the case, we would have to rely on my extensive documentation and subsequent findings to determine the validity, scope and work relatedness of my cumulative injury. The HISTORY OF INJURY, which you have provided, beginning on page one, is incomplete. You do not adequately address the restraining order that was issued against my Union representative and which generated several hundred pages of documentation. You are not aware of the “ZEP 885” incident in which my entire work crew was poisoned over several days, in spite of our pleas, and ultimately taken by van to a doctor. UPS was fined $40,000 by CAL OSHA and I was threatened with termination for stealing time immediately after my whistle blower protection expired. I was threatened with termination for reading the Teamsters Contract, on Company time, in my capacity as Shop Steward, while waiting for out of town tractors to fuel. The incident was written up in a National Teamster Newspaper. A similar incident occurred more recently, which we didn’t discuss.

Please note that the Alameda County District Attorney’s Office has reviewed approximately 4,000 pages of documents relevant to my work history and concerns. These matters were thoroughly documented.

I am forwarding a copy of my letter of September 2, 2003, with attachments, to Liberty Mutual Insurance. This letter was addressed to you with a copy to Bruce D. Parker at The Law Offices of Helen Santana. I didn’t send a copy to Liberty Mutual. The 26 page partial list of documents will be updated and brought to the Workers’ Compensation Appeals Board at the time of the mandatory settlement hearing. It will be accompanied by supporting documents that I will be submitting as exhibits in my WCAB trial in the event that my request for Workers’ Compensation benefits and attorney fees is denied.

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Please note that I will be representing myself at the WCAB trial. My Workers´ Compensation case is of a very complex nature.

U.P.S. will be represented by a team of attorneys, those very attorneys that you feel are the evil s***** of the earth.


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Posted October 13 2003 - 08:09 AM

No shaman I still like your metaphysical side its the other one I can;t stand. You appear to be a deep thinker and probably someone I would like a lot if you were a neighbor, I do honestly think you are consumed with hate and motivated by revenge that may stem all the way back to your pre-UPS days. I sincerely hope UPS has not contributed to your state of mind. From the outside in It appears that between you and olsen and ups you have developed one big pissing contest. I have never know a pissing contest to have a positive end result. They generally consume you.
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Posted October 13 2003 - 09:16 AM

JUDGING

When you judge others,
you do not define them,
you define yourself.

- Earl Nightingale




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Posted October 13 2003 - 09:54 AM

And you can buy Earl Nightingale´s The Strangest Secret Millennium 2000 Gold Record Recording for only $18.95 and be eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping on orders over $25!!!!!

Or, as in the immortal words of Oral Roberts [?].....

"Ladies and gentlemen, brothers and sisters, all you people out there in TELEVISIONLAND, place your HANDS on the TELEVISION SET and PRAY for the soul of this poor demented brother!" [yes, I´ll admit, I´m being rather a touch sacrilegious ....at least from some perspectives]


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Posted October 13 2003 - 08:50 PM

NONSENSE

I like nonsense;
it wakes up brain cells.

- Dr. Suess


"We are what our thoughts have made us; so take care about what you think. Words are secondary. Thoughts live; they travel far."
Swami Vivekananda

"All that we are is the result of what we have thought."
The Buddha

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Posted October 14 2003 - 08:51 PM

LOL,

I don´t think Shaman knows how to handle a sup actually treating him with respect. Hes got a great big hate karma going right now. My apologies wise father. I thank you for the exchange. I look forward to the day your metaphysical side grows to realize we are all in fact human beings and that most of us actually do try to do the right thing. And just like your union brothers some management are asssholes and some fail at their jobs. And just like your union brothers most of us mean well and try to do the best job we can. Just like your union brothers do so without the guidance of their union leader most management are either successull or fail based on their own efforts and not because some leader is telling them to. But then your battle has never been with Darth Vadar but with the starship and the empire itself. To seperate out the empire into individual components would be disrupt what has been your fixation to fight evil with evil. I´ll pray your journey is a safe one.
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Posted October 14 2003 - 09:21 PM

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13-10-2003 at 10:08, Shaman wrote:
.............."The incident was written up in a National Teamster Newspaper".


THE CONVOY DISPATCH IS NOT A NATIONAL TEAMSTER NEWSPAPER.



........"Please note that I will be representing myself at the WCAB trial. My Workers´ Compensation case is of a very complex nature".


YOUR FRAUDULENT CASE IS NOT COMPLEX, YOUR TWISTED MIND IS COMPLEX.

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YOU ARE ONE TWISTED SCREWBALL CHUCKLES. DO YOU STILL LIVE WITH MOMMY?

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Posted October 15 2003 - 05:48 AM

LIFE

In three words
I can sum up everything
I´ve learned about life -
it goes on.

- Robert Frost


"We are what our thoughts have made us; so take care about what you think. Words are secondary. Thoughts live; they travel far."
Swami Vivekananda

"All that we are is the result of what we have thought."
The Buddha

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