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[JAFO]

[quote name='jimbo' date='Sep 2 2006, 06:01 PM' post='212799']


Last I checked, it was an open forum. He is allowed to post anything he wants as long as it is in the guidelines of this website. Same as you. The intrigue of this website is it's diversity. If all posts were the same, if all responses were pattered and predictable, you would not be here, neither would I or anyone else....except.... maybe ...TA.



Yes it is - An open forum presumably best served by the exchange of ideas, opinions and information. Of course the only thing you offer is YOUR opinion of a poster (TA) who is offering HIS opinion of another poster (Shaman). In that respect, what makes you better than the person you admonish? Rhetoric aside, Charlie has some rather obvious issues I really don't care to be displayed here. And if you took the time to read the 3 years of responses to his posts, you'd realize there are alot more people who also feel that way, than there are that think he has something useful to say.

[Shaman]

Tell me about my issues. Let's see..................... Number one on my list would be grievance panel corruption and denial of protection under the National Labor Relations Act. Another one would be the termination of workers for violating company policies that don't exist.

It's your turn. Please list my other issues.

Charlie

(27602)

ps. Who is the recognized spokesperson for the Teamsters Union on this string? Would it be TA or JAFO?

[attaboy]

"Tell me about my issues. Let's see..................... Number one on my list would be grievance panel corruption and denial of protection under the National Labor Relations Act."

Chuck, we've been through this before, remember? You said "I've never lost a grievance". How can the grievance panel be corrupt if you've never lost? As for issues, I've listed them many times before.

In this very thread you were caught lying in your own deposition. You posted personal and confidetial infromation of a fellow Teamster on the world wide web. You have continuously sang the praises of some voodoo cult that you have emersed yourself in that you go so far as to "only answer the phones". You willingly take the so called "tainted" cash from a Teamster pension. You are admitedly to sick in the head to perform the high stress job of carwasher. You threw a hissy fit when a feeder driver did the totally unthinkable task of applying his own rain-ex. Through your singlehand expertize of never losing a grievance you have managed to reduce the work force in your shift by half. You have failed to answer any dozens of questions about your outlandish remarks, an example of which would be, who are all of these reform activists who got fired and the trumped up charges against them?

Are you really so parinoid that you believe there is a "spokesman for the Teamsters" on this thread. Ofcourse your powers of peception are pretty keen, you do have me pegged as a BA from local 70 right? (super huge wide grin)

[Shaman]

I can understand why you are a little confused about the facts. That is why I am posting documentation. The tone of your post indicates that you would have little reason to read this string. I suppose you are reading this material for entertainment. Just take a deep breath and be entertained. You don't have to take me seriously and don't worry about hurting my feelings. Do you feel better now?
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Charles R. Engel
71 Ball Road
Walnut Creek, California 94596
E-mail: theshaman@earthlink.net

February 28, 1997

Dan Varella
Business Agent
TEAMSTER LOCAL 78
492 “C” Street
Hayward, CA 94541

Dear Dan:

Attached is a copy of my reply to the letters of February 26, 1997, from Kenneth K0, Supervisory Attorney, at the National Labor Relations Board. I think I have been able to answer the questions he has posed with the exception of one.

I am not satisfied with the company’s answer and its provision of the orientation packet. I am still concerned about those matters. I believe that we are in agreement on this matter and I would sincerely appreciate a definitive letter in order to alleviate any ambiguity relevant to this matter.

Fraternally,



Chuck Engel
Steward

cc: Kenneth Ko, NLRB, Oakland

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Charles R. Engel
71 Ball Road
Walnut Creek, California 94596
E-mail: theshaman@earthlink.net

February 28, 1997

Kenneth Ko
Supervisory Attorney
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
1301 Clay Street, Room 300N
Oakland, CA 94612-5211

RE: United Parcel Service
Case 32-CA-15881

Dear Mr. Ko:

This letter is in response to the your correspondence February 26, 1997. In regards to your letter to me;

1. I accepted the settlement of the grievance filed over the discharge letter of July 15, 1996 while under duress and without admitting guilt. I did this after Dan Varella was assured by an attorney that I would be able to pursue the matter. Please consider this to be a formal request to simply hold the charge without acting on it until either Local 78 can get a clarification from the mentioned attorney or item #2 is addressed.

2. I am still concerned about the discriminatory application of unwritten company policies “under special circumstances”. This is my underlying concern and a primary reason I have filed these charges. United Parcel Service has refused to state their position in writing as to whether or not these policies exist on paper and or acknowledged that they exist in application. I believe that this is a reasonable request that would result in the resolution of item #1.

3. UPS has not yet responded to the information request that was filed on November 22, 1996 (copy attached) pertaining to the jurisdictional airport grievance. This grievance has not been resolved in over six months. I have attached an amended request for information relevant to this grievance.

4. I have not yet decided on my course of action pertaining to Mr. Naddy’s refusal to allow me to attend an off premises panel meeting. I am contemplating the filing of a grievance and a subsequent information request.

As a matter of record I am not on workers’ compensation at this time. I have appealed my workers compensation denial. My state disability was recently reinstated after I appealed.

Please don’t hesitate to call or fax me if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,



Charles R. Engel
Steward, Teamster Local 78

cc: Dan Varella, Local 78

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Charles R. Engel
71 Ball Road
Walnut Creek, California 94596
E-mail: theshaman@earthlink.net

February 28, 1997

Dan Varella
Business Agent
TEAMSTER LOCAL 78
492 “C” Street
Hayward, CA 94541

Dear Dan:

I am not satisfied with the company’s answer regarding unwritten policies and its provision of the orientation packet. I am very concerned about this matter. I believe that we are in agreement on this subject and I would sincerely appreciate a definitive letter from Local 78 in order to alleviate any ambiguity.

I have attached a copy of the latest information request that applies to the Airport Jurisdictional Grievance. Please forward this to Mr. John Naddy if it meets with the approval of yourself and Mr. Ko. Please let me know as soon as possible if you suggest or require additional clarification.

Attached is a copy of my reply to the letters of February 26, 1997, from Kenneth Ko, Supervisory Attorney, at the National Labor Relations Board.

Fraternally,



Chuck Engel
Steward

cc: Kenneth Ko, NLRB, Oakland

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Charles R. Engel
71 Ball Road
Walnut Creek, California 94596
E-mail: theshaman@earthlink.net

February 28, 1997

Kenneth Ko
Supervisory Attorney
NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS BOARD
1301 Clay Street, Room 300N
Oakland, CA 94612-5211

RE: United Parcel Service
Case 32-CA-15881

Dear Mr. Ko:

This letter is in response to the your correspondence February 26, 1997. In regards to your letter to me;

1. I accepted the settlement of the grievance filed over the discharge letter of July 15, 1996 while under duress and without admitting guilt. I did this after Dan Varella was assured by an attorney that I would be able to pursue the matter. Please consider this to be a formal request to simply hold the charge without acting on it until either Local 78 can get a clarification from the mentioned attorney or item #2 is addressed.

2. I am still concerned about the discriminatory application of unwritten or posted company policies “under special circumstances”. This is my underlying concern and a primary reason I have filed these charges. United Parcel Service has refused to state their position in writing as to whether or not these policies exist on paper and or acknowledged that they exist in application. I believe that this is a reasonable request that would result in the resolution of item #1.

3. UPS has not yet responded to the information request that was filed on November 22, 1996 (copy attached) pertaining to the jurisdictional airport grievance. This grievance has not been resolved in over six months. I have attached an amended request for information relevant to this grievance.
4. I have not yet decided on my course of action pertaining to Mr. Naddy’s refusal to allow me to attend an off premises panel meeting. I am contemplating the filing of a grievance and a subsequent information request.

As a matter of record I am not on workers’ compensation at this time. I have appealed my workers compensation denial. My state disability was recently reinstated after I appealed.

Please don’t hesitate to call or fax me if I can be of further assistance.

Sincerely,



Charles R. Engel
Steward, Teamster Local 78

cc: Dan Varella, Local 78

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Charles R. Engel
71 Ball Road
Walnut Creek, California 94596
E-mail: theshaman@earthlink.net

February 28, 1997

Mr. John Naddy
Division Labor Manager
UNITED PARCEL SERVICE
District Office
7677 Oakport #600
Oakland, California 94621

RE: INFO. REQUEST - AIRPORT JURISDICTIONAL GRIEVANCE

Following is an amended list of information that I request you send to Local 78. This request is in addition to the original information request of 11-22-96 (copy attached). This information request pertains to the airport jurisdictional grievance that was filed last year and is scheduled to be heard at panel. I am filing this request in order to clarify jurisdiction and prepare for the grievance panel.

In addition to the specific items mentioned below, please supply all factual bases for your contention that the work in question does not fall under the jurisdiction of Teamster Local 78.

1. Bargaining notes and arbitration summaries that would clarify or supersede the published contract. I am referring to the National Master UPS Agreement, Northern California Supplemental Agreement and Northern California Sort Rider. I am looking for agreements allowing for the use of Local 70 employees to fuel equipment.

2. The dates and contents of any union statements upon which you are relying; and the dates and descriptions of any practices or events which you contend support your position. I wish to be informed in writing of the terms of the agreement which Ms. Muniz claims exists between Local 78 and UPS.

3. Copies of company memo’s and or correspondence that refer to the decision to use Local 70 personnel to fuel equipment at the Oakland Airport.

4. Job assignment records pertaining to the dates and hours spent by Local 70 personnel doing the work that is in question.

5. A job description of the Local 78 car washer that is currently working at the Oakland Airport and a job description of the Local 70 employee doing similar work at night.

6. The names and time keeping records of both the Local 78 and the Local 70 employees fueling equipment at the Oakland Airport. I am trying to determine the total number hours spent fueling, servicing and washing equipment by persons in both Locals.

7. Time study records and work rules covering the positions in question.

8. Please provide a list of vehicles fueled at the Oakland Airport. This list should include vehicle numbers, type of vehicle and a copy of the fuel reports for the past six months. This information is needed to determine the approximate work load at the Oakland Airport.

This request is made without prejudice to the union’s right to file subsequent requests. If any part of this letter is denied or if any material is unavailable, please provide the remaining items as soon as possible, which the union will accept without prejudice to its position that it is entitled to all documents and information called for in the request.

This request is being filed pursuant to Article 7, Section 1, paragraph (b) of the Northern California Supplemental Agreement. Please be advised that refusals to provide information, or delays in excess of twenty days, are unfair labor practices in violation of Section 8(a)(5) of the National Labor Relations Act.

Sincerely,


Charles R. Engel
Steward, Local 78

cc: Dan Varella, Local 78

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November 22, 1996

Mr. Dan Varella
Business Agent
TEAMSTER LOCAL #78
492 C Street
Hayward, California 94541

Dear Dan:

Following is a list of information I request you to obtain, in writing, pursuant to the airport jurisdictional grievance that will be heard in December. In addition to the specific items mentioned below please make a general information request stating; “Please supply all documents or records which refer to or reflect the factors causing you to reject this grievance.”

1. Job evaluations.
2. Investigative reports.
3. Job assignment records.
4. Job descriptions.
5. Reports and job studies.
6. Supervisors notes.
7. Time study records.
8. Payroll records for John Steeley and regular airport
personnel.

It is my understanding that refusals to provide information, or unreasonable delays, are unfair labor practices in violation of Section 8(a)(5) of the National Labor Relations Act.

Fraternally,


Chuck Engel
Steward

cc: Brad DeMaria
Ray Kindle
Matt McLoone

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February 28, 1997

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Re: Oakland Airport Jurisdictional Grievance

The airport jurisdictional grievance was first brought up, formally, in the April 8, 1996 letter to Dan Varella (copy attached). Teamster Local 78 Business Agent, Dan Varella was approached by UPS Labor Relations Manager, Ms. Kim Muniz, in December. Ms. Muniz mentioned an unwritten agreement, pertaining to the Oakland Airport operation, between United Parcel Service and Teamsters Local 78. Mr. Varella told Ms. Muniz that he was not aware of an unwritten understanding and any agreement that wasn’t in writing was not valid.

I am of the opinion that this is the grievance that UPS management is most concerned about. This grievance has been delayed for over six months. UPS has not responded to an information request under the National Labor Relations Act. The hearing was delayed again in January. This grievance pertains to an eight hour job at the Oakland Airport. A decision in our favor would lead to at least one additional full time job and United Parcel Service would possibly be instructed to pay at least six months wages.

I believe that the filing of the airport jurisdictional grievance was a prime factor in the decision to issue the contractually unwarranted letter to terminate me dated July 15, 1996.



Charles Engel
Steward, Teamster Local 78

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April 8, 1996

Mr. Dan Varella
Business Agent
Teamster Local #78
492-C Street
Hayward, Calif. 94541

Dear Dan:

This letter is in regards to the new car-wash job at the Oakland Airport. It is my understanding that Local 70 is in the process of working out the details of job bidding and seniority at this location. I believe that Local 78 Teamsters are in a situation that is very different that of Local 70. Local 70 has members that are already employed at the airport whom the company can offer new jobs to on a seniority basis. Local 78 is in a very different position. We have, as you know, only one member at the Oakland Airport. The opening of a new car-wash position would necessitate either the hiring of a new employee, the transfer of a Local 70 part-time Teamster to a full-time position or the Company could offer the new Airport position to a Local 78 Teamster that is currently laid off at the Oakland Hub Facility.

I do not believe that offering the new full-time car-wash position at the Oakland Airport would create a precedent that would have implications for all Local 70 employees. We are in a unique position. We, unlike Local 70, do not have members at the Airport that new jobs could be offered to. I can’t imagine a valid reason to allow U.P.S. to draw from Local 70 to fill car-wash positions. I don’t believe it is in our best interest to abide by any panel decisions unless they specifically address our situation.

Please let me know, as soon as possible, what your position is on this matter. I and a number of other car-washers would like to proceed with a grievance worded specifically to our concerns if and when it becomes clear that such an action would be prudent.

Thank you,



Charles R. Engel


(27695)

[attaboy]

"Do you feel better now"

Sure. But I felt pretty darn good before. Maybe that's because I'm not at all "confused" about the facts. Your reluctance to answer those facts tells me that your sham is becoming more and more exposed every day.

[JAFO]

Shaman, on Sep 6 2006, 02:19 AM, said:

Tell me about my issues. Let's see..................... Number one on my list would be grievance panel corruption and denial of protection under the National Labor Relations Act. Another one would be the termination of workers for violating company policies that don't exist.

It's your turn. Please list my other issues.

Charlie

(27602)

ps. Who is the recognized spokesperson for the Teamsters Union on this string? Would it be TA or JAFO?

The "issues" I refer to are you personal issues - number one of which is your obsessive behavior......whether it be over things you can't control, or more likely due to your failure to produce documented results on this site - things that don't exist. Of course, your allegations couldn't be a little off base, could they? It's must just be one big conspiracy.

But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Teamsters that visit this sight are extrememly interested in reading all of your documentation from about your personal situation from the previous millenium that has no effect on them, the IBT, UPS Teamster relations, the contract or their present and future situations. Maybe they've all ready Moby Dick and War and Peace several times each and find your posts enjoyable.

[Shaman]

JAFO, on Sep 6 2006, 06:12 AM, said:

The "issues" I refer to are you personal issues - number one of which is your obsessive behavior......whether it be over things you can't control, or more likely due to your failure to produce documented results on this site - things that don't exist. Of course, your allegations couldn't be a little off base, could they? It's must just be one big conspiracy.

But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Teamsters that visit this sight are extrememly interested in reading all of your documentation from about your personal situation from the previous millenium that has no effect on them, the IBT, UPS Teamster relations, the contract or their present and future situations. Maybe they've all ready Moby Dick and War and Peace several times each and find your posts enjoyable.

Now you understand! You've made a conceptual leap!

Then again, some may recognize situations that they are currently dealing with.

Do you have any suggestions on how we could get them to stop reading these posts? I just don't understand why they would keep reading such meaningless dribble. Oh well, it's harmless since no one takes it seriously.

(27729)

[JAFO]

Shaman, on Sep 7 2006, 12:11 AM, said:

Now you understand! You've made a conceptual leap!

Then again, some may recognize situations that they are currently dealing with.

Do you have any suggestions on how we could get them to stop reading these posts? I just don't understand why they would keep reading such meaningless dribble. Oh well, it's harmless since no one takes it seriously.

(27729)

Your attempt to make a condescending reply is rather amusing. Of course, it makes even less sense than the antiquated documentation you cut and past here. Apparently you need to a "conceptual leap" (whatever the hell that is ) of your own, Charley. Or perhaps you should have somebody explain the meaning of sarcasm to you. After that has been done maybe you will be able to figure out that not only do the readers here not take your drivel (not dribble) seriously - THEY DON'T READ IT. At least not since the 1st few pages you posted back in 2003 when it was already seven year old correspondence. Anybody that does, also probably still needs to read the instructions on the top of a cereal box that tells you how to open it.

[BlackCloud]

Must be you have been reading the top of those cereal boxes.

[TA]

chuckles ocd is really flaring up again-poor bastard!

Wonder when he is going to refuse that "rotten" Teamster Pension money that those dirty Teamsters negotiated for him?

What a phoney screwball; can't wait for more meaningless irrelevant 9 year old "stroking himself" letters. Poor locals 70 and 78!

Does anyone wonder why chuckles father won't have anthing to do with him?

[Shaman]

I filed a SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM on the following persons on March 6, 1997.

1. Mike Kamienski, U.P.S. District Manager
2. John M. Colllins, Senior Vice President, Pacific Division Manager, Liberty Mutual
3. Donalcd H. Stanford, Medical Doctor

March 6, 1997

Mr. Mike Kamienski
District Manager
UNITED PARCEL SERVICE
7677 Oakport #600
Oakland, California 94621

Re: Charles R. Engel - Workers Compensation Appeal Subpoena
Date of Injury: July 15, 1996

In addition to the specific items mentioned below, please supply all factual bases for your contention that the actions taken against me were nondiscriminatory in nature.

1. Please provide bargaining notes or arbitration summaries that would clarify or supersede the published contract on the matter of job abandonment. Please provide the uniformly applied definition of job abandonment. Please provide an outline of the standard and contractually correct investigative procedures leading to the determination of job abandonment. Please show evidence that this information has been disseminated to management and is applied in a nondiscriminatory manner.

2. Please provide documentation indicating the dates and contents of any union statements upon which you are relying; and the dates and descriptions of any practices or events which you contend support your position that I was not treated in a discriminatory manner. Please provide the names and location of persons that have been subjected to discipline for violating the same policy that I was.

3. Please provide a copy of company manuals and guidelines that address the issues of standard investigation procedure and handling of attendance related problems.

4. Please provide copies of company memos, notes, correspondence, e-mail and faxes pertaining to my workers’ compensation claim. This would include both internal communication and communication between Liberty Mutual Insurance and United Parcel Service.

5. Please provide the name of the person or persons that were responsible for the decision to deny my workers’ compensation on the premise that I was treated in a nondiscriminatory manner. Please indicate name and title in a descending order of authority.

6. Please provide a copy of disciplinary records that would indicate a problem with me.

7. Please provide a copy of the investigation that preceded the decision to send the July 15, 1996 letter of intent to terminate me for unauthorized leave. I request verification that this investigation was done in a standard and proper manner in compliance with the Teamster Contract and published Company Policy.

8. Please provide a copy of the printed work rules or policy pertaining to standard procedure for notifying management, in advance, of intent to take time off for personal emergencies. I demand to be informed as to whether written notification and or specific procedure is required.

9. Please provide a complete copy of my personnel file that is or was kept in the Oakland Automotive Office.

10. Please provide a copy of any of my personnel files that are being kept at a location other than the shop office. I request a copy of my personnel file that is being kept in the district office or other corporate locations. I am also requesting any files pertaining to me that have been flagged to indicate special attention.

11. Please provide a copy of the specific documentation that UPS has provided Liberty Mutual and upon which Liberty Mutual is substantiating it’s claim that the events leading to and following my suspension were nondiscriminatory in nature.

12. Please provide a copy of my personnel record that contains my correspondence with United Parcel Service and a copy of the companies replies to my letters.

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March 6, 1997

John M. Collins,
Vice President, Senior Pacific Division Manager
Liberty Mutual Insurance Company
6130 Stoneridge Mall Road
Pleasanton, California 94588

Re: Charles Engel - United Parcel Service
Case #WC669-16958
Date of Injury: 7-15-96

In addition to the specific items mentioned below, please supply all
factual bases that led to your determination that the actions taken
against me were nondiscriminatory in nature.

1. Please provide a copy of my complete file including all documentation that
you contend is "privileged information". Define the term "privileged
information". Please provide a direct reference to the State or
Federal Law or statute that would justify your contention that you are
not obligated to provide the alleged "privileged information." I also
request a copy of all Liberty Mutual manuals regulations and guide lines for
making this determination.

2. Please provide copies of notes, memos, letters, e-mail and faxes and
any correspondence pertaining to my claim from the desks of Case Worker,
Marilyn Estigoy and Team Leader Eric Hansen or any other person or
location at Liberty Mutual where such notes and information would be
kept. Please provide a list of the person or persons responsible for
the decision to deny my Workers Compensation. Please include their
title and job description. Please list them in descending order of
authority.

3. Please provide copies of correspondence, regarding my claim,
including notes, memo's, faxes and e-mail between Liberty Mutual and
United Parcel Service including references to phone conversations.
Please include phone logs, records of calls, notes and content of these
conversations.

4. Please provide a copy of the Liberty Mutual Insurance manuals of regulations and procedures describing the proper way to gather information regarding my claim from my employer, United Parcel Service. Please provide all documentation that was generated by this process. Please indicate whether this was done in compliance with Federal and or State laws and regulations.

5. Please provide a transcript of the comments made by persons at Liberty Mutual, and United Parcel Service that were instrumental in the decision that the actions leading to the letter of intent to discharge, of July 15, 1996, was nondiscriminatory in nature. Please indicate the names and titles of said persons.

6. I request a copy of any correspondence such as notes, memos, letters, E-mail and faxes between Liberty Mutual employees and UPS regarding the first letter of denial (dated 12/18/96) based on Dr. Stanford's report. Include records of phone conversations and personal meetings, especially addressing the denial of workers compensation based on statements made by Dr. Stanford to Liberty Mutual.

7. I request all written material such as notes, memos, letters, E-mail, faxes that indicates what person or persons were responsible for the denial of my workers’ compensation claim based on Dr. Stanford's report.

8. Please provide the factual basis for the decision to issue the second letter of denial (dated 1/17/97). This includes any correspondence such as notes, memos, letters, e-mail and faxes between Liberty Mutual case workers and UPS regarding the second letter of denial. Please substantiate the claim, by Liberty Mutual, that the case worker determined that; “Our investigation, which includes your statement and your employers’ statement, has revealed that these personnel actions were lawful, nondiscriminatory and good faith in nature.”

9. Please provide a copy of all contracts, agreements, rules, regulations, procedures and communication between Liberty Mutual and UPS relating to the handling and processing of my workers compensation case.

In addition to the specific items mentioned below please provide all documentation in your possession pertaining to the ZEP 885 incident of September, 1989.

ZEP 885 SUBPONEA

1. Please provide a copy of my personnel record containing the complete investigation pertaining to the “ZEP 885” incident of September, 1989.

2. Please provide a copy of the company policy, bulletin or pamphlet that indicates that employees will be terminated for possessing a personal copy of a key to a company vehicle. Please provide documentation that would indicate that this information has been or ever was disseminated to the employees.

3. Please provide a copy of the recognized protocol and procedures for reporting serious problems that can’t be resolved at a lower management level. Please indicate the follow up steps that are taken to ensure that employees are not discriminated against in retribution for pointing out said problems.

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March 6, 1997

Donald H. Stanford, MD
2232 Carlton Street
Berkeley, California 94704

Re: Charles Engel - United Parcel Service
Liberty Mutual Case #WC669-16958
Date of Injury: 7-15-96

In addition to the specific items mentioned below please provide all documentation in your possession pertaining to my examination of November 19, 1996.

1. Please provide copies of correspondence, regarding my claim,
including notes, memo's, faxes and e-mail between Liberty Mutual and
your self including references to phone conversations. Please include phone logs, records of calls, notes and content of these conversations.

2. Please provide a copy of all contracts, agreements, rules, regulations, procedures and communication between Liberty Mutual and your office relevant to the handling and processing of my workers compensation case.

3. I request all written material such as notes, memos, letters, E-mail, faxes that would indicate the which person or persons were responsible for the denial of my workers’ compensation claim based on Dr. Stanford's report.

4. Please provide documentation indicating whether or not your office had contact with Liberty Mutual after the mailing of your report of December 13, 1996. Please provide documentation indicating the full nature of the communication.







(27849)

[JAFO]

Perhaps Charley could write a letter to Osama Bin Laden requesting all pertinent information regarding the Al-Qaeda network and affiliated organizations including names and address of all terrorists, financial holdings and correspondence regarding future attacks on US citizens. Give it a shot Charley. You've done such a fine job ridding the Teamster's union of corruption and making UPS such a joyful place to work - maybe you can rid the world of Islamic extremists with a couple of certified letters.

[Shaman]

Charles R. Engel
71 Ball Road
Walnut Creek, California 94596
E-mail: theshaman@earthlink.net

March 9, 1997

Dan Varella
Business Agent
Teamsters Local #78
492 C Street
Hayward, California 94541

Re: WORKERS’ COMP. APPEALS BOARD SUBPOENA
NLRB CASE #32-CA-15881, UNITED PARCEL SERVICE

Dear Dan:

For your information, attached are copies of the subpoena’s that are in the process of being served on the following individuals.

1. Mike Kamienski, District Manager, United Parcel Service.
2. John M. Collins, Senior Vice President, Pacific Division Manager, Liberty Mutual Insurance Company.
3. Donald H. Stanford, MD

The information that I am requesting would be relevant in a determination that I was treated in a discriminatory manner. It is similar to the information we are attempting to secure with the help of the National Labor Relations Board.

I’ll keep both yourself and Kenneth Ko, at the Oakland Office of the NLRB, informed on new developments. Please keep me informed of correspondence relevant to these matters.

Sincerely,



Chuck Engel
Steward

cc: Kenneth Ko, NLRB, Oakland

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[saddletramp]

stuff from over 9 years ago....


what a waste of bandwidth...............

[Shaman]

saddletramp, on Sep 7 2006, 11:44 AM, said:

stuff from over 9 years ago....
what a waste of bandwidth...............

I have to agree with you. I keep posting because people keep reading and responding. I find it difficult to comprehend.

(27890)

[JAFO]

Nobody is "responding" to your posts in the true sense of the word - an answer to a question.

You know a QUESTION like......What kind of moron cut and pastes 10 year old documentation that never amounted to anything more than a public display of his obsessive behavior?

And an ANSWER like........The same moron who thinks, by simply writing a letter, that people he accuses of discriminating against him will readily turn over confidential information that the he, as the accuser has no legal right to, so that he may use it in attempting to substantiate his baseless charges.

Now maybe if you understand a little better, you can stop posting your bullshit. Or perhaps, with all of the bandwidth being wasted, the moderator can give you your own forum.

[Shaman]

Thank you for your enlightening response. It's people like you that keep this string alive.

U.P.S., Liberty Mutual, Kaiser and other parties involved did respond to my subpoenas and other requests for documentation. The response involved such a volumn of documents that I hesitate to post them here. Let me know if you would like a list.

You need to be patient. Most of the observations that you have made will be proven to be false. It's all in the documents.

I apologize for not posting more today. I have some other priorities.

Namaste,

Charlie

ps. Have you considered seeking anger management counseling?

(27959)

[Shaman]

LIBERTY MUTUAL
6130 Stoneridge Mall Road
2nd Floor
Pleasanton, CA 94588
Telephone (510) 734-9200

Charles Engel
71 Ball Road
Walnut Creek, CA 94596

RE: QME APPOINTMENT
NOTICE DATE: 03-11-97
CLAIM NUMBER: WC 669-169858
DATE OF INJURY: 07-15-96

Dear Mr. Engel:

You should have already received from the State of California your Qualified Medical Evaluator Panel Selection List. This notification is sent in accordance with Regulations of the Department of Industrial Relations and is intended to advise you of your rights and responsibilities in connection with the Qualified Medical Examination that you will schedule. If you have not already done so, please send us a copy of your QME panel list along with the name of the doctor you selected and the date and time of your appointment.

Attached is a copy of all the medical and non-medical information that is going to be submitted to the Qualified Medical Evaluator prior to your examination. You have the right, within 10 days of your receipt of this information, to object to any non-medical information. If we do not hear from you within 10 days, we will be sending all of the enclosed information to the Qualified Medical Evaluator.

If there is any information that you wish to furnish to the Qualified Medical Evaluator, you must furnish us with a copy at least 20 days prior to the date of your evaluation. We will then also have a right, within 10 days of our receipt of it, to object to any non-medical evidence.
The attached “Employee’s Permanent Disability Questionnaire” (DEU Form 100) must be completed and provided to the Qualified Medical Evaluator on the date of your scheduled examination. The Qualified Medical Evaluator will be forwarding the DEU Form 100 to the Disability Evaluation Unit for a Permanent Disability Rating. We will not be able to determine whether you have suffered from any permanent disability nor able to determine whether you are eligible for a permanent disability settlement without a rating from the Disability Evaluation Unit. We urge you to complete the enclosed DEU Form 100 form and provide it to the Qualified Medical Evaluator at the time of your appointment.

If you have any questions regarding this process, you may contact the undersigned or the Office of the Executive Medical Director, Department of Industrial Relations for the State of California, at 1 (800) 794-6900.

Sincerely,

LIBERTY MUTUAL INSURANCE COMPANY


Marilyn Estigoy
Case Manager
Ext. 2328
Claims Department

Encl.: DEU Form 100

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Charles R. Engel
71 Ball Road
E-mail: theshaman@earthlink.net

March 12, 1997

Dan Varella
Business Agent
TEAMSTER LOCAL #78
492 C Street
Hayward, California 94541

Re: MONTEREY PANEL

Dear Dan:

This letter is reference to our phone conversation today. I would like to clarify my position relevant to participating in the grievance panel scheduled in Monterey the beginning of next month.

I request a postponement of our hearing until United Parcel Service provides us with the documents that have been requested in pre panel discovery. If anyone involved in these proceedings has reason to believe that I am requesting documentation that either doesn’t exist or I am not entitled to, they should state so in writing.

I am not concerned with uncovering documentation that would compromise myself at the workplace. I am attempting to determine the truth. Given a choice between accepting an environment lenient to discrimination or being part of a workforce striving for mutual honesty and respect, I’ll choose the latter.

Again, please consider this letter to be a formal request to postpone the hearing of our scheduled grievances until United Parcel Service complies with our requests.

Sincerely,


Chuck Engel
Steward

cc: Kenneth Ko, NLRB, Oakland (Case #32-CA-15881, U.P.S.)

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TEAMSTERS UNION LOCAL NO. 78
492 “C” Street, Hayward, California 94541
Telephone: (510) 889-6811 * FAX (510) 889-0865

March 12, 1997

Mr. John Naddy
8400 Pardee
Oakland, California 94621

Dear Mr. Naddy:

There was a request for information made by Chuck Engel regarding the Airport grievance, also on the expulsion from the property grievance he filed, of which to date he has not received.

Please send this information to Local No. 78 prior to April’s hearing.

Sincerely,


Dan Varela
Business, Agent

DV/ah

cc: Chuck Engel


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[JAFO]

Shaman, on Sep 9 2006, 09:29 AM, said:

Thank you for your enlightening response. It's people like you that keep this string alive.

U.P.S., Liberty Mutual, Kaiser and other parties involved did respond to my subpoenas and other requests for documentation. The response involved such a volumn of documents that I hesitate to post them here. Let me know if you would like a list.

You need to be patient. Most of the observations that you have made will be proven to be false. It's all in the documents.

I apologize for not posting more today. I have some other priorities.

Namaste,

Charlie

ps. Have you considered seeking anger management counseling?

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You know Charley........I chose not to reply to your post on 9/9 where you blame me for "keeping this string alive". In fact NOBODY has replied in 3 days. Nobody cares. Unfortunately you are too delusional to realize it.

Kind regards,

JAFO

p.s. Have you considered pursuing a life with "some other priorities"?

[Shaman]

JAFO, on Sep 12 2006, 12:43 PM, said:

You know Charley........I chose not to reply to your post on 9/9 where you blame me for "keeping this string alive". In fact NOBODY has replied in 3 days. Nobody cares. Unfortunately you are too delusional to realize it.

Kind regards,

JAFO

p.s. Have you considered pursuing a life with "some other priorities"?

There have been 310 views since I posted that.