I get a different story every day from my stews. Nobody i talk to seems to want to strike and many are saying they will cross. The only ones who seem to want to strike are the idiots wearing the 8-1 we done shirts. Security guard tells us management is making plans to ride out a strike. How long will this last? I just got my 22.3 job. Somebody give me a good answer that makes sense man!

I feel your pain. The company saw 705's proposals and thought they were asking for too much. Then the games started. The company drug their feet by focusing on 710 who's proposals were demanding but negotiable. When they saw they were going to settle 710's contract they knew they could take a hard line against 705. They've been diverting packages from CACH since last Thurs. according to my Div. Mngr. They think they can survive a strike by going around 705's jurisdiction. They wont be able to picket other bldgs. outside their realm by claiming struck goods. Nothing will be coming out of CACH. 705 does have the city of Chicago as leverage. They can definitely get some peoples attention. I have no clue as to what percentage will cross and who wont. That will be an ugly situation for those who cross IF a strike is called. If that many are against the strike why didn't they show up to vote no on the 20th???? The only hope for those against is for a contract extension agreed upon by both parties and hammer something out while everybody continues working. It's really the best thing that could happen before the deadline of July 31st. With DHL on the run and FedEx in debt to Uncle Sam to the tune of 1.5 billion, a strike would be devastating for all of UPS. There wouldn't be any public sympathy this time. 705 and UPS met today so we shall see what is going to happen. I would love to be a fly on the wall in those meetings. My guess is something in the order of an extension will be called at the 11th hour. Thats if cooler heads prevail. If they don't, honor your brothers pickets and stand together.

Well said greed.

We did not run a chicago trailer out of our building last night. They sent the volume to northbay instead and were going to sort it to go to a different location in Illinois. This is the first night for this and from what I heard this is the plan for at least the rest of the week.

What would keep 705 from extending their picket lines to other UPS facilities? What are the rules for doing it?

Also, if 710's contract is settled, does anyone have the actual language somewhere online so I can check it out?

One last thing, the title of this thread "Poor Communication And No Unity" makes no sense. On 705's web site you can check out both the company and union proposals and updates as they are negotiated. That almost never happens.

Also, there was a strike vote taken that a notice was put out for and many members showed up and voted. That doesnt sound like poor communication and no unity to me. I wish our Local was any where near these guys as far as communication and unity go.

If there is a strike, do the only right thing and honor the picket line. Help out as much as you can and get your union brothers to do the same. That is the best way to insure that if a strike is called, it is a short one.

I believe we are suppose to honor all picket lines.
Remember the "roving" overnite picket lines?

UPS Reaches Contract Deal With Thousands Of Employees
Union That Represents Chicago Workers Still Talking; Strike Threat Looms
(WGM-AM) - One down, one to go. The threat of a strike has been averted, at least for some UPS employee.

Teamsters Local 710, which represents 6,000 employees throughout Illinois and Indiana, reached a tentative five-year contract agreement with UPS.

Employees stand to gain an additional nine dollars in hour in wages and fringe benefits over the life of the contract.

Local Secretary Treasurer Patrick Flynn said its a good deal for the employees, and for the company:

"To give the employer a contract that they can certainly live and hopefully grow with, and to supply our members continued employment, is very important. We were very pleased to finally reach an agreement," Flynn said.

http://wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_c...&Itemid=333

most of us at local 174 are willing to back the strike if it happens. We feel that if UPS doesn't realize that the workers make the company, then we are headed for a downward spiral.

First of this cah705guy has his 22.3 job because of 97 when we struck to get more ftime jobs. He also has his job because steve and the guys are doing their best to take care of the people at cach. How can you even think about crossing a picket line after we struck to get you that job?

The contract is settled now, we only asked for what the national asked for in their same original proposal. The company delayed this whole process in an attempt to upset the members against our current leadership. Well over 3200 of us showed up and voted to show that we were behind steve.

Alot of locals had stood up and pledged support to extend picket lines as in, 25, 804, 177, 174, 396, 63 and all of norcal i do apoligize if i left any of you out. This was huge in our favor and in the end helped us to get a great deal.

Cah705 you not playing politics now are you? Your not freinds with that deadbeat loser that lost 2 steward elections who just happened to be our old vice president?

Not friends with anyone you are referring to. My problems with Pocztowski is that he has no business sense and has lost us respect at the negotiating table. How embarassing after all the talks and silly t-shirts that we have to go in to work with our tail between our legs. We got zip, zero, nada of the things he promised us. When it came time to keep us informed, we were left in the dark. He should be there with us today to deal with the smirks and giggling from our snot nosed supervisors. ANSWER MY QUESTION: WHY WAS HE REMOVED FROM NEGOTIATIONS BY KEN HALL?

First of all how long have you been in this local and with ups?
Are you aware that prior to steve taking over this local was out of money? Steve's business sense is the best to ever run this local.

Are you out of your mind? We gained back cross town feeder work which was given away by the previous administration.
We gained better subcontracting language, no subcontracting when we have union employees willing and available hours.
Any employee that gets laid off will retain their current pay rate.
Feeder can now bump down into any building in 705s territory for layoffs, before you could only bump in your district.
We now have expediated arbitration, so when you go to panel and both sides deadlock theres a 5th person there that will make a decision right than and there
no more dragging it out 1 to 2 years.
We gained an extra week vacation for 30 years of service, and everyone gained an extra optional paid day off.
Any fulltime employee can now bid up or down into another ftime job.
Supervisor working does not contain "act of god" or "emergency condition" language that the national has, and is paid at double time.
We have 9.5 language that pays triple time with no opt in or opt out language.
Our 8 hour days are 8 hours not 8 and a half like the nationals.
We have a letter of understanding in the back of the contract stating that air drivers cant deliver or pick up grounds.
Taw language, that you must be scheduled 1 hour before or 1 hour after your bid scheduled start time while on taw, and not for more than 29 days.
18 mothns for ptimers to get family coverage which under current contract is 36 months.
We no longer have to address a concern with ups, the employee can file a grievance immediately with the union.
And yes we excepted the same economic package that the national got.
We have job protection language protecting all jobs created since 1997, no 22.3 jobs will be eliminated.

These were offers from ups that we refused to accept.
Seniority would be measured by continous length of service, which meant if you went on comp, disability or fmla you lost your seniority.
Ptime package car drivers, also air drivers that could do package car work, if you went on fmla you would have a job not your job, 15 cents and hour wage increase every 6 months, $12 bucks per week into the pension fund, on call feeder boards the list goes on and you say that steve sold you out? You might want to learn how to spell the name of the man that just got you the best contract in 705s history, its Steve Pocztowski.Ken hall did not negotiate our contract, ken was invited to sit in and see how it was going, and yea ken explained the importance on expediated arbitrations and its benefits. Thats it! Ken hall was there showing support for 705 and nothing more. get your head out of your ass!

Let me ask you guys does this sound better than what you got on the national level?

Can you point out were steve and the committee went backwards in any language? You wont be able to nothing was traded away!

Can you state what you heard steve ever promise? No one ever made promises because we all know that nothing can be promised. Hows that $26.62 an hour combo job working our for you?

First of all, how did you lose respect at the negotiating table? 705 had the complete attention of UPS all around the country. If you feel you went back with your tails between your legs then you have no one to blame but yourselves. Try getting involved in the union and be proactive. How many union meetings do you go to a year? I'm guessing none or you would've known how negotiations work. You sound like one of these guys who expect your steward to go to all the meetings, be involved, and basically do all the work for you so you can set on your lazy ass at home and reap the benefits. Find people who think like you and get off your asses and go to the meetings. If you have legitimate bitches air them if you have the stones. Setting behind a computer and bitching won't get you anything. And last, if smirks and giggling by short term punk supervisors bother you, then you need to find a new job. If they are as you describe them, then an informed involved union man should be able to wall paper their office with grievances because those are the easiest . WALK THE WALK DON'T JUST TALK IT !!!!