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rockpile25
post Jun 10 2008, 05:20 PM
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IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON THAT YOU THE MODERATORS ARE RANDOMLY REMOVING MEMBERS POSTS,YOURS IN THE BROTHERHOOD ROCKPILE?????


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post Jun 10 2008, 09:51 PM
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RP please expand on that so we can find out what is going on.

The only thing that should be removed is porn, spam and things of a 'fire in a crowded building' nature.

Please post a reply or shoot me a PM with a little detail and I will see you get an answer.

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post Jun 10 2008, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (rockpile25 @ Jun 10 2008, 06:20 PM) *
IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON THAT YOU THE MODERATORS ARE RANDOMLY REMOVING MEMBERS POSTS,YOURS IN THE BROTHERHOOD ROCKPILE?????


I don't see any posts that were moved. I haven't moved a post in a long time except for one of my own last week.


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post Jun 11 2008, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE (rockpile25 @ Jun 10 2008, 05:20 PM) *
IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR REASON THAT YOU THE MODERATORS ARE RANDOMLY REMOVING MEMBERS POSTS,YOURS IN THE BROTHERHOOD ROCKPILE?????


For whatever it's worth, Brother Phil is a third generation Teamster who's Father and Uncle are very well known around here for their personal integrity, as Brother Phil is. VJ may move things, he's removed some of my postings --he suffers from "lawsuitaphobia" a disease brought on when some jackass reads the truth about himself, it's too much for his small, frail ego to bear and he calls you (or e-mails you) and threatens to sue you. I'm not talking about any one person in particular who caused VJ to be exposed to "lawsuitaphobia" but more in general terms. When he's removed my postings it because he fears a lawsuit.

VJ sees potential lawsuits lurking around every corner, and in the shadows sometimes. We don't always agree. But I know he does so to protect Brother Phil, and T net and I know when he errrors on the side of caution his heart is in the right place. I can live with that. In light of his activistim, and consistent efforts to promote our Union, it's issues, and share information with all of us, it's a very small thing to me.

From my personal observation it's not "random" at all. But if I'm wrong, please correct me.

Have a great day, Brother.


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post Jun 16 2008, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE (TeamsterNet @ Jun 10 2008, 10:51 PM) *
RP please expand on that so we can find out what is going on.

The only thing that should be removed is porn, spam and things of a 'fire in a crowded building' nature.

Please post a reply or shoot me a PM with a little detail and I will see you get an answer.

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well, Phil, I guess you've been out of action for awhile then. I remember Jim removing a whole shit load of posts and even banning a few people because he couldnt argue with their logic. They didn't even break to TOS. Remember JC53Agent? BANNED because the Jim couldn't credibly respond to his questions. You should look up that series of posts to see all of the posts that were removed then. Now that all of the dissenters are gone, this has become an agreeable, nice, quiet, BORING website where disagreeing with the moderator will get you TOSsed out on your ass. So much for free speech and democracy.
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post Jun 16 2008, 02:46 PM
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Wow that's quite the string of untruths, now isn't it? JC53Agent was banned for being an admitted union buster, not because he argued with me. If I banned everyone who disagreed with me then how do you explain Heisler being allowed on the board?

By the way, big guy, Phil knew of every ban that's ever been issued; he's not "out of action" except perhaps in public postings. If you think Phil and I talk only in public forum areas then you're just a bit misguided.

Anyhoo, go ahead and voice your disagreement then watch as no ban occurs. Should prove quite difficult to reconcile with your everyone-who-disagrees-gets-banned screed, but no doubt you'll find a way to continue lying, eh?


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post Jun 16 2008, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE (VegasJim @ Jun 16 2008, 03:46 PM) *
Wow that's quite the string of untruths, now isn't it? JC53Agent was banned for being an admitted union buster, not because he argued with me. If I banned everyone who disagreed with me then how do you explain Heisler being allowed on the board?

By the way, big guy, Phil knew of every ban that's ever been issued; he's not "out of action" except perhaps in public postings. If you think Phil and I talk only in public forum areas then you're just a bit misguided.

Anyhoo, go ahead and voice your disagreement then watch as no ban occurs. Should prove quite difficult to reconcile with your everyone-who-disagrees-gets-banned screed, but no doubt you'll find a way to continue lying, eh?


Alot more people have been banned then JC53Agent. Even if he was a union buster why would you ban him? Were you afraid you could not stand up to him in a debate?
You do get rid of anyone that opposes you and you have made this site boring and un-interesting, You are a poor excuse for a moderator and and even poorer excuse for a human being.
I have stated my opinion in opposition to you so lets see how long it takes for me to get banned.
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post Jun 16 2008, 04:22 PM
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Bob,

Hmm, let's see: This website is called Teamster.net, and it's a forum dedicated to Teamster discussions of issues (with a name like that it shouldn't be much of a surprise what it's dedicated to, but I thought I'd put it out there for clarity's sake). So an admitted union buster comes on the site and expects us to give him a forum to spread his anti-union propaganda, and according to you - a Teamster "member" - that's something that should be fine and dandy. I'm not sure what local you're from - that is, if you're truly a Teamster - but in my local we don't often cede the microphone to union busters. How 'bout your local? That how you fellas do it? It'd no doubt be quite a unique practice, but who am I to complain about what your local does. Similarly, who are you to complain what a privately-owned website does? You, for example, invest money in TNET? Until such time I'm not particularly concerned with your plans for TNET's operation, as you're yet another in a long line of blowhards who think they know better and have a right to tell a privately-owned website what it should and shouldn't do.

And as I said to your comrade one post back, if I "got rid" of everyone who disagrees with me, how do you square that line of crap with the fact that Heisler, BarkingDog (and whatever other aliases accompany that handle), you, your like-minded "raysraise" cohort, and at times Alex_y are allowed to continue posting here? All have disagreed with me publicly and forcefully at times, yet they're still allowed to post. Care to explain that one, big mouth?

I may be a poor excuse for a moderator, sir, but you're a poor excuse for a liar; you can't even manage dishonesty correctly. That's quite a failure, but given your "stellar" contributions thus far it's certainly far from surprising.

By the by: I didn't ban JC53Agent. The action was undertaken after a majority vote of administrators and moderators approved the action. But go ahead and keep blaming me in the singular for it - and highlighting that you'd be in hog heaven with a union buster on the board while you're at it. It no doubt gives you all the credibility in the world, doesn't it?


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post Jun 16 2008, 05:14 PM
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No offense, but the great scb was allowed to spread his/her anti-union propaganda for several years around here. I am sure I will get a spanking for pointing that out, but it is the truth.
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post Jun 16 2008, 05:27 PM
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BC,

The main difference? scb wasn't a paid union buster, just a guy with an opinion. It's when people actively bust Teamster organizing drives that we'll ban them, not if they simply don't like us or disapprove of unions in general.


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post Jun 16 2008, 06:36 PM
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BC,

The main difference? scb wasn't a paid union buster, just a guy with an opinion. It's when people actively bust Teamster organizing drives that we'll ban them, not if they simply don't like us or disapprove of unions in general.

Barking dog is a personal freind of yours who simply speaks out to add a little flavor to the site at times. Ohhhh do you wonder how I found that out? I must not be some run of the mill shit talker after all huh? You want to call me a liar, you want to talk shit on me? Anytime you want to man up and grow some balls Jimmy. Your are a joke as far as being a teamster is concerned, just a gutless little shit talking pussy.
As far as this being a private website get fucking real, if its so private why do you have a public forum? Just close it off to outspoken people like me and all you ass clowns can sit here and suck each others cocks all day long.
Next time you want to call me a liar do it to my face
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post Jun 16 2008, 06:46 PM
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Bob,

I'm not sure in what universe you're currently residing, but I've never met - let alone maintain a friendship - with BarkingDog. Might wanna check the ol' source once again for in this case it's led you rather far astray. But, of course, it sure shines a new light on that "run of the mill shit talker" statement of yours, now doesn't it?

As to the rest, let me just point out that your threats - the ones accompanying your characterization of me as, and let me make sure to get this 100% correct, "a pussy" - are quite the hypocritical statement - are they not? - considering that while you're challenging me to say something to your face, your own cowardice has you threatening me over the Internet? Hmm, a brave one you are there, eh Bobb-o?

Anyhoo, seeing as you've been caught shooting your mouth off without the benefit of having truth, facts, or honesty on your side - the apparency of which is duly noted by your refusal or failure to respond to my rather pointed questions - I think I'll confidently retire my side of the argument by simply reminding you that threatening people on TNET isn't allowed; something I'm sure you know and are merely trying to goad me into banning you so you can feign some "gotcha" moment to your little coterie of bigmouths. Here's some advice: Take your vile, Neanderthal bluster back over to the site where it's welcome. You know, the one on which you guys openly declared war on us and threatened to keep coming here to disrupt? Yeah, that one.

Have a good one, Thug. Good to see excrement rarely changes its putrid stench.


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