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May 30 2008, 11:30 PM
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![]() Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,609 Joined: 19-December 05 From: The Trenches and Foxholes Member No.: 4,979 Local Union Number: 85 |
Local 278 has rejected the possible merger with Local 85.
Probably wasn't a good fit, 278 has a gang of UPSers and little else. Local 85 the oldest Local West of the Mississippi, the oldest Brotherhood of Teamsters Local in the IBT, and one of the most miltant Locals in the IBT is like the orphan of the IBT. Nobody wants to merge with Local 85-- supposedly because of it's Members. What kind of Teamsters Union is this? The kind of Union where we all dress up in pretty little uniforms, toast s'mores by the campfire, tell ghost stories and sing Neil Sedaka songs? -------------------- "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910 |
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Jun 3 2008, 09:44 PM
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Journeyman Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 28-August 03 From: not disclosed Member No.: 2,581 |
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Jun 5 2008, 01:12 PM
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![]() Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,183 Joined: 21-June 02 Member No.: 42 |
Hey TA, Real Team knows Local 85 as good or better than most anyone. 85 Teamster members are like Teamsters used to be, they are tough and unyielding but their world has passed them by. Their membership has shrunk because work opportunity eg freight, produce, fish, meat, freight forwarding, the rail hubs and a lot more has shrunk or disappeared, and the growth areas eg UPS and Garbage are not included in their jurisdiction, except for DHL. Unfortunately, its only going to get worse. 278 would have been a decent match except for a likely culture clash, but 853 which has a lot of members on the SF side of the Bay Area is also a decent match. 85 is a tough Local to service with jurisdictions such as the movie industry that are great, but require time consuming service and representation, so its difficult for 85 to be self sustaining. Its too bad that there are no reduced or elimination of per capita payment provisions included in some of these merger or trusteeship discussions. Another suggestion that I have made previously is to give 85 the entire JC#7 movie industry jurisdiction, even though I pissed everyone else off when I suggested it.
-------------------- alex y.
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Jun 10 2008, 09:46 AM
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![]() Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,609 Joined: 19-December 05 From: The Trenches and Foxholes Member No.: 4,979 Local Union Number: 85 |
Hey TA, Real Team knows Local 85 as good or better than most anyone. 85 Teamster members are like Teamsters used to be, they are tough and unyielding but their world has passed them by. Their membership has shrunk because work opportunity eg freight, produce, fish, meat, freight forwarding, the rail hubs and a lot more has shrunk or disappeared, and the growth areas eg UPS and Garbage are not included in their jurisdiction, except for DHL. Unfortunately, its only going to get worse. 278 would have been a decent match except for a likely culture clash, but 853 which has a lot of members on the SF side of the Bay Area is also a decent match. 85 is a tough Local to service with jurisdictions such as the movie industry that are great, but require time consuming service and representation, so its difficult for 85 to be self sustaining. Its too bad that there are no reduced or elimination of per capita payment provisions included in some of these merger or trusteeship discussions. Another suggestion that I have made previously is to give 85 the entire JC#7 movie industry jurisdiction, even though I pissed everyone else off when I suggested it. I think that's a great idea! Give 85 the Motion Picure industry throughout the area! Be good to see all the Trade Shows under one as well, that way the Brothers and Sisters from 70 and 287 could share the same Health and Welfare benefits Local 85 enjoys, which are the best in the area. We ARE the most miltant Local in the IBT. Our Local leadership is doing a great job on this one! We will be deep, and in force on July 22, Brother, across the Bay in Oakland supprting our General President and Brother Mack at that huge rally. Hope to see you there! Thanks for the kind words! -------------------- "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910 |
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