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Mar 28 2007, 10:42 AM
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![]() Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,609 Joined: 19-December 05 From: The Trenches and Foxholes Member No.: 4,979 Local Union Number: 85 |
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-------------------- "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910 |
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Mar 29 2007, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(RealTeam @ Mar 28 2007, 02:42 PM) [snapback]232225[/snapback] I was talking to a UPS Feeder driver who lives near Van Skillman in NC. He says some years ago Van Skillman was arrested for having sex with an underage minor, supposedly the babysitter. Anyone ever hear anything about this? I'm not saying this report is true, I'm just asking others if they have heard the same thing, or know any more about this... Proverbs 12:23A prudent man keeps his knowledge to himself, but the heart of fools blurts out folly. Proverbs 14:8 The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception. Your attempt to discredit Van with false accusations disguised as heresay is the way of a fool. And T-Net's lack of action to remove this thread is silent approval of your foolishness. Such an accusation is easily refuted with police/electronic records, which I assume you, being the fool that you are, didn't bother checking before posting. Any legal ramifications of T-Net's and your foolish actions are well deserved, which is what I would be pursuing if I were in Van's shoes right now. |
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Apr 3 2007, 01:45 PM
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![]() Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,609 Joined: 19-December 05 From: The Trenches and Foxholes Member No.: 4,979 Local Union Number: 85 |
QUOTE(Nospinzone @ Mar 29 2007, 09:06 PM) [snapback]232352[/snapback] Proverbs 12:23 A prudent man keeps his knowledge to himself, but the heart of fools blurts out folly. Proverbs 14:8 The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception. Your attempt to discredit Van with false accusations disguised as heresay is the way of a fool. And T-Net's lack of action to remove this thread is silent approval of your foolishness. Such an accusation is easily refuted with police/electronic records, which I assume you, being the fool that you are, didn't bother checking before posting. Any legal ramifications of T-Net's and your foolish actions are well deserved, which is what I would be pursuing if I were in Van's shoes right now. time will tell. -------------------- "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910 |
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Apr 3 2007, 03:00 PM
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Semi-Member ![]() Group: Members Posts: 30 Joined: 11-March 05 Member No.: 4,377 |
Mooresville Police Department Police Reports
Iridell County Sex Offender Registry North Carolina Sex Offender Registry Somehow I don't believe you when you say you checked. If your accusation had been true, surely the IBT would have used its vast resources to obtain a copy of the report and would have crucified Van. I would think dirt this damaging would be worth the couple bucks it would cost to send a written request to the Mooresville PD or the Iredell County Sheriffs Office. But alas, there is no report is there? So that leaves you sitting behind your desk overlooking the Bay throwing baseless accusations disguised as heresay, doesn't it? |
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Apr 4 2007, 08:29 AM
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New Member Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 4-April 07 Member No.: 6,519 |
Journeyman Member,
Your anonymous posting of March 28, 2007, 10:42 a.m. regarding Van Skillman is libelous and on behalf of Mr. Skillman, I am demanding an apology and a retraction. You obviously have no proof to back up your scandalous assertion and passing or, more probably, inventing such an outrageous charge is reprehensible, as is the Teamster's failure to remove it from its T-Net. Unless an apology and retraction is immediately forthcoming, we will have no choice but to pursue legal channels to protect Mr. Skillman's good name and reputation. Francis T. Coleman, Esq. on behalf of Van Skillman |
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Apr 5 2007, 01:58 PM
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![]() Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,609 Joined: 19-December 05 From: The Trenches and Foxholes Member No.: 4,979 Local Union Number: 85 |
QUOTE(tomcoleman @ Apr 4 2007, 09:29 AM) [snapback]232808[/snapback] Journeyman Member, Your anonymous posting of March 28, 2007, 10:42 a.m. regarding Van Skillman is libelous and on behalf of Mr. Skillman, I am demanding an apology and a retraction. You obviously have no proof to back up your scandalous assertion and passing or, more probably, inventing such an outrageous charge is reprehensible, as is the Teamster's failure to remove it from its T-Net. Unless an apology and retraction is immediately forthcoming, we will have no choice but to pursue legal channels to protect Mr. Skillman's good name and reputation. Francis T. Coleman, Esq. on behalf of Van Skillman If I had a dollar for every time someone threatened to sue me throughout the years I'd have a good little chunk of change! So..... [attachment=889:pleasetakeanumber.jpg] -------------------- "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910 |
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Apr 5 2007, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(tomcoleman @ Apr 5 2007, 02:29 AM) [snapback]232808[/snapback] Journeyman Member, Your anonymous posting of March 28, 2007, 10:42 a.m. regarding Van Skillman is libelous and on behalf of Mr. Skillman, I am demanding an apology and a retraction. You obviously have no proof to back up your scandalous assertion and passing or, more probably, inventing such an outrageous charge is reprehensible, as is the Teamster's failure to remove it from its T-Net. Unless an apology and retraction is immediately forthcoming, we will have no choice but to pursue legal channels to protect Mr. Skillman's good name and reputation. Francis T. Coleman, Esq. on behalf of Van Skillman real puss, you don't have anything to worry about -------------------- A good man begins to die, the moment he doesn't stand up for what is right.
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Apr 23 2007, 08:56 PM
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![]() Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 7-April 05 From: Atlanta Member No.: 4,432 Local Union Number: 728 |
QUOTE(RealTeam @ Apr 6 2007, 07:58 AM) [snapback]232948[/snapback] If I had a dollar for every time someone threatened to sue me throughout the years I'd have a good little chunk of change! So..... [attachment=889:pleasetakeanumber.jpg] WOW i heard that same thing about Shillman this is Too strange |
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Apr 24 2007, 02:07 PM
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![]() Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,609 Joined: 19-December 05 From: The Trenches and Foxholes Member No.: 4,979 Local Union Number: 85 |
QUOTE(BCFan @ Apr 23 2007, 09:56 PM) [snapback]234361[/snapback] WOW i heard that same thing about Shillman this is Too strange You heard this? <<I was talking to a UPS Feeder driver who lives near Van Skillman in NC. He says some years ago Van Skillman was arrested for having sex with an underage minor, supposedly the babysitter. Anyone ever hear anything about this? I'm not saying this report is true, I'm just asking others if they have heard the same thing, or know any more about this...>> So, if you and I both heard it, it's not libelous (nor slanderous) to ask if anyone else has heard it. Is it? -------------------- "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910 |
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Jun 16 2007, 08:05 PM
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![]() Member Group: Root Admin Posts: 347 Joined: 26-May 02 From: Northern California Member No.: 2 Local Union Number: 624 |
Lighten up Francis!
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Jun 19 2007, 11:55 AM
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![]() Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,609 Joined: 19-December 05 From: The Trenches and Foxholes Member No.: 4,979 Local Union Number: 85 |
Lighten up Francis! Francis "Tom" Coleman the Union busting attorney mentioned in this earlier T net posting by "Local Organizer"?? <<Van Skillman and Danny Eason are the self-declared officers of the APWA. Tom Coleman, Esq., is APWA's lawyer... But Coleman is much more than that. Here are a few things you should know about Francis "Tom" Coleman. Coleman is a partner in the Labor and Employment Law Section of Williams Mullen law firm in their Washington DC office. According to its web site, (http://www.williamsmullen.com) the firm helps employers: - Defeat union organizing attempts for clients in major manufacturing sectors such as steel, paper, health care, printing, construction, and mining. - Decertify unions (geeze, that's a familiar one) - Train all levels of management in union avoidance (union busting) Coleman is a member of the labor Lawyer's Advisory Committee and was the past chairman of a group called Cuncil for a Union-Free Environment (CUE). is this who you want advising the officers of an association that claims to be "SOLELY and EXCLUSIVELY for the benefit of any UPS employee? Francis T. Coleman has written two anti-union books that threaten the future of any and all unions. They are: The De-Unionizing Handbook & Becoming Union Free. WHO is APWA? The two bozos, Skillman and Eason are employees at UPS in NC. Coleman is the attorney WHERE is APWA? is it at: The home of Van Skillman in NC? PO Box 58427 Raleigh, NC 27658 Williams Mullen Law Firm at 1666 K Street Washington, DC ? Or the state of Deleware, where APWA is registered as a non-profit organization? WHAT is APWA? According to the US Department of Labor, APWA is NOT a registered labor union. As of August 1st 2006, the Department of Labor has not received any application, paperwork from the APWA, Tom Colman Esq., Danny Eason, or Van Skillman. APWA says that no one will ever be thrown out of any of their meetings for asking "a hard question that we don't want to answer". I challenge any of you to ask the following if you ever piss away you free time and actually attend one of these meetings: 1. Can I see you Bylaws and Constitution? 2. I see that you are registered as a non-profit. Can you show us your IRS tax filing, specifically the Form-990 which is required by 501 © (5) organizations that have over $25,000 income. 3. Why are you incorporated in Deleware. rather than North Carolina, where your mailing address is listed? 4. Does the APWA operate out of any offices in North Carolina where its mailing address is listed on its website and its two officers live? 5. Why does the IRS record your address at 1666 K Street in Washington DC? (Coleman's Law Firm) 6. How many members does APWA have? 7. Why hasn't APWA filed any registration forms as a labor organization with the department of labor? 8. Who are other officers / staff of APWA? 9. Have any of the officers of APWA ever negotiated a union contract? 10. Have any of the officers of APWA ever represented union members (i.e., as shop stewards etc.?) 11. Does APWA employ any staffers who are experienced in representing union members, as opposed to its attorney, who has expertise in union busting? Think about it folks.... The Teamsters is 1.4 million strong, let's send the message that we care bout "our" union and its future. Let's dump these bozos and become more involved with our Teamster Locals and don't forget to vote for IBT officers, you should all have your ballots by now.>> -------------------- "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." Theodore Roosevelt "Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910 |
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Jul 13 2007, 08:41 AM
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Veteran Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,973 Joined: 21-September 03 Member No.: 2,749 |
Journeyman Member, Your anonymous posting of March 28, 2007, 10:42 a.m. regarding Van Skillman is libelous and on behalf of Mr. Skillman, I am demanding an apology and a retraction. You obviously have no proof to back up your scandalous assertion and passing or, more probably, inventing such an outrageous charge is reprehensible, as is the Teamster's failure to remove it from its T-Net. Unless an apology and retraction is immediately forthcoming, we will have no choice but to pursue legal channels to protect Mr. Skillman's good name and reputation. Francis T. Coleman, Esq. on behalf of Van Skillman Francis you really don't scare anybody on t-net. Now you are going to try and tell us that people can't ask questions. Who do you expect to believe your crap? Get another life. I have dealt with attorneys like you all of my life. |
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