I was at yesterdays gen membership meeting and couldnt help noticce that the local 830 monitor is still attending the meetings. Could he be the trustee at 830? Why is he still at our meetings?

and another thing, Brock keeps saying that the labor department is investigating our local, but they don't mention it at the meetings. Is Brock lying or are they keeping secrets from us.

I'm trying to support the team, but when leaders ajourn the meeting because they dont like the questions, that tells you something. You may not like to hear from Brock, but doesn't he still have a right to speak? And why did the chairman of the meeting ajourn without a motion, second, and a vote?

I hope i'm wrong, but I think that we're in a death spiral at 830. It's a shame, too

Who was the monitor at the meeting?
If Joe has called in the DOL then you may very well find a trusteeship in the works, I have said that will be the outcome all along. I am told that neither the IBT and the JC53 would be too upset to see a trusteeship in this local at this point. Also, if Local 830 is put in trusteeship do not look for Dan and his group to go and Joe to stay, they will all be gone and a new election set for the future. Dan and Joe would not be alowed to be in that election having been removed. Talk about who you want but nothing but in the history of the local with the exception of Gordon Grub will match the legacy of the Reform Slate if this happens.

He's probably referring to Mike Clark, who continues to oversee the local.

A trusteeship may or may not remove Grace, depending on what they find, but unless they find something on Brock, which is unlikely, he'd be eligible to run in the re-run election.

It depends on who is pushing for the trusteeship. If it's the government, who is removed will depend on their findings. But if the trusteeship originates from the IBT, it doen's matter what they do or don't find. The punk commie scab,"hoffa the corrupt" will run out whoever he senses won't follow his every directive and money will also play into his decision. I really don't need to tell this to anyone from Philly. You've all seen this first hand. If the IBT can't find a legitimate reason to trustee your local, they'll just railroad your leaders anyway on phony charges.
STRONGER THAN DIRT

Now that would be something to witness. Are you telling us, that the IBT would trump up charges to remove a Union official?

Old Adage, "Where's there's smoke there's fire."

That's exactly what I'm saying. While it might not be believed by the "westcoast", everyone here knows it as truth. They witnessed it first hand. The JC panel hearing in this case shows how the deck is stacked.
STRONGER THAN DIRT

Guys,
Let's not forget that brock started this thread. Yes, he is fosters. Notice how convenient it is that he brings up his own name as a good guy? Pulllleeeessse!!
If for some slim reason Grace has problems with the DOL (I don't think they will because he has done everything by the book) I can GUARANTEE that brock will NOT assume the leadership of 830. I personally have enough information on illegal and immorral things that he has done to ensure that it will NEVER happen.
The reason it has not come to light yet is that there are other innocent people involved that would get hurt. My only goal is to see just brock pay for his dubious deeds. So let the chips fall where they may, but the fat lady is singing on the BM slate.

we've been hearing this "we have the goods on Brock" bullshit for a year now. You've had every opportunity to present this evidence at every step of the way. As usual, you guys just don't deliver. For the 20th time, show us what you got? Brock showed us what he had, and you needed to cheat, and commit mail fraud (say hi uncle wife-beater) to win. After the results are known, we'll all go to the authorities with what we have. Where Grace is going, forget watching the chips fall...just don't drop the soap.

I looked at the lead post again, Whoever Fosters is made no such "Brock is a good guy" comment.

It's not a matter of "got the goods on Brock" and what they have is what you say you have on Danny.

In case you don't understand how this works it goes like this. Whatever you say Danny did, whatever it is, Brock is equally guilty of. He can't say he sat by as President and let it all happen up to the point he decided to run for office and claim he is a hero. The rules here are simple, as president "if you knew you should have done something, if you didn't know you should have known". If any thing finanical is wrong he is guilty not only by the above rule but he must have signed the LM2's, the kiss of death.
If any wrong doing is found he goes too unless he makes a deal with the goverment to give Danny up along with other people. I wonder if people are patting him on the back and chest when they meet looking for a wire?

Sorry, KMA, that argument doesn't cut it in this case.

Is Brock equally guilty for Grace's illegal disqualification of all opposition candidtes during the voting period? And how so?
Is Brock guilty for any of the election impropriety committed by Grace and his team?
Also, If someone who works at the post office comes forward and says they did a "ballot swap" for uncle danny so that he can change the outcome of the election. How does that implicate Brock?

All of these things are just some of the things were talking about. There are so many more things at play here. None having to do with the lm-2.

You have no interest in the truth, only revenge for those who didn't allow your dirty deeds.

Danny Stole an Election ...How can Brock be Guilty of That my Friend??
Danny tore down a Defenseless Tree .....Brock was involved??{humor}
Danny scabbed a Union Bug ......Brock has more pride than that...
Danny did everything in his power to cheat the Union out of fair election...Brock??
Danny fired workers for no reason......Brock ??
Danny left Yuengling workers hanging.....Brock??
Danny leaves 30 Pepsi Transport workers hanging...Brock??
Danny committed mail fraud.......Brock??
Bring Your facts next time !!

DANNY SOLD OVER 300 MEMBERS OUT, IN THE PENNSAULKIN STRIKE THAT MY BROTHERS IS A FACT ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, HE DID RIGHT ALONGSIDE OF FRANK GILLEN IN ATLANTIC CITY ,ARE THERE ANY DOUBTS HE AND TOM BROWN STOLE THE ELECTION? NOT HERE ,NOT NOW ,NOR WILL THERE EVERY BE.......

Hey pt,
Not one of your statements is true!
All lies!
As usual!
And one more time, what part of 830 do you belong to?

No Facts AS Usual !!!!!
Are You Hearing That Flushing sound !!!!!!!

You might think that someone with his criminal background would at least pay his taxes. This guy's watching our dues money!!!

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City of Philadelphia
1515 Arch Street
Law Department, 15th Floor
Philadelphia, PA 19102
Attorney: Joanne R Strauss ID: 090676

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PHILA, PA 19136

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